Even Joe Rogan & Tim Dillon Called the Minnesota Shooting Wrong
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Summary
Takeaways
- ❖The Minnesota shooting of Renee Good was an unjustified 'execution-style killing,' not self-defense, based on video evidence.
- ❖Even prominent figures like Piers Morgan, Joe Rogan, and Tim Dillon publicly condemned the shooting as wrong.
- ❖The officer's actions, including shooting from the side of a slowly moving car and making a derogatory comment post-shooting, undermine claims of fearing for his life.
Insights
1Detailed Rebuttal of Self-Defense Claim in Renee Good Shooting
Tim Miller meticulously refutes the claim that the officer, Jonathan Ross, acted in self-defense when shooting Renee Good. He highlights that Ross had seen Good 20 seconds prior, she was smiling, and her car contained children's toys. When shot, the car was moving at '2 miles an hour,' comparable to a grocery store parking lot, with the wheel turned 'away' from the officer. Crucially, the third shot was fired when Ross was 'completely to the side of the car,' not in danger. Additionally, his colleagues did not draw their weapons, and Ross called Good a 'f***ing b****' after the incident, suggesting a lack of genuine fear.
Miller's description of the car's speed and direction, the officer's position during the third shot, the inaction of other officers, and the officer's post-shooting comment.
2Unusual Cross-Ideological Consensus on Shooting's Wrongfulness
Despite the divisive nature of police shootings, the Minnesota incident garnered widespread condemnation across the political spectrum. Piers Morgan acknowledged the shooting was wrong, Joe Rogan called it 'horrific' and 'inappropriate,' and pro-Trump podcaster Tim Dillon stated the officer was 'not justified' and it was 'a murder.' This broad agreement, including only 28% of the country (and 64% of Republicans) finding the shooting appropriate in a poll, suggests a clear public perception of injustice.
Quotes from Piers Morgan (), Joe Rogan (), and Tim Dillon (), and poll data cited by Miller ().
3The 'Domestic Terrorist' Label Applied to Both Renee Good and Ashley Babbitt
In a debate with Will Chamberlain, Miller and Piers Morgan discuss the definition of 'domestic terrorism.' Miller asserts a broad view: 'the use of violence or the threat of violence for political ends in this country is domestic terrorism.' By this definition, he controversially states that 'both Renee Good and Ashley Babbot were domestic terrorists,' implying a consistent application of the label regardless of political alignment or the specific circumstances of their deaths.
Miller's definition of domestic terrorism and his application of the label to both Good and Babbitt.
Lessons
- Critically evaluate official narratives of controversial events by examining detailed evidence, such as video footage, rather than accepting initial justifications.
- Recognize that consensus on clear injustices can emerge across political divides, challenging the assumption that all issues are strictly partisan.
- Challenge those who defend actions like the Minnesota shooting by pointing to specific, irrefutable details from the incident, such as the officer's position or the victim's lack of immediate threat.
Quotes
"My view is having watched this many times now from every possible angle is that everybody involved made mistakes, but that ultimately that woman should not have been shot dead."
"It's also very ugly to watch someone shoot a US citizen, especially a woman, in the face... it just looked horrific to me."
"I don't believe the cop was justified in shooting her three times in the face. It's just like anybody that is not a total scaredy-cat... sees this video and sees the obvious, which is this was wrong, was a murder."
"I think everybody made mistake in this situation but only one person got executed and so I think we should look into why that was and what happened there and just be honest about what happened."
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