The Joe Budden Podcast Episode 918 | The Friendship Show
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Takeaways
- ❖Offset's shooting over an alleged $10,000 debt highlights the dangerous financial habits and lack of self-preservation among some successful artists.
- ❖Kanye West's recent performances are visually stunning, but his apologies for past controversies are viewed as disingenuous when tied to album rollouts and merchandise.
- ❖The cancellation of Kanye's Wireless Festival appearance demonstrates that not all audiences or sponsors are quick to forgive controversial behavior, especially internationally.
- ❖Lauren Hill's live performances are criticized for repetitive song arrangements, indicating a desire for new material or fresh interpretations from long-standing artists.
- ❖Trick Daddy's performance at an AKA sorority event, where he was cut off for explicit lyrics, sparks debate on artist authenticity versus event expectations and the responsibility of event bookers.
- ❖Brandy's memoir reveals a significant creative fallout with producer Rodney Jerkins, including a cutting remark about him choosing to work with Beyonce, highlighting the competitive and sometimes brutal nature of music collaborations.
- ❖The hosts express skepticism about the disappearance of Savannah Guthrie's mother, suggesting more information is being withheld or that TMZ's exclusive 'tips' are suspicious.
- ❖The discussion on the oldest age to start a rap career concludes that it depends on the desired genre, with 'hip-hop hip-hop' being more accepting of older artists than mainstream pop rap.
Insights
1Offset's Shooting and Alleged Gambling Addiction
The hosts discuss the shooting of rapper Offset over an alleged $10,000 debt, using it as a springboard to address the prevalence of gambling addiction among wealthy artists. Flip shares a personal story about being shot, emphasizing the severity of gun violence over trivial disputes. The conversation highlights the irony of artists with significant wealth risking their lives over relatively small sums.
Discussion around Offset being shot in the buttock over an alleged $10,000 debt, with reports of him owing a casino $850,000 and asking for more money. Flip's personal anecdote about being shot and the '12-inch ruler' analogy.
2Kanye West's Accountability and Mental Health
Kanye West's recent performances and the subsequent cancellation of his Wireless Festival appearance are heavily debated. Joe and Mark express skepticism about Kanye's apologies, viewing them as disingenuous when timed with album releases and merchandise. They argue that while mental health issues may explain some behavior, they don't excuse actions like wearing a 'clan outfit' or making anti-Semitic statements. Flip and Ish lean towards more forgiveness, citing personal experiences with family members struggling with mental health, but acknowledge the need for genuine, sustained change.
Discussion of Kanye's SoFi stadium performance, his bringing out Travis Scott and Lauren Hill, and the cancellation of Wireless Festival due to sponsor backlash (Pepsi, PayPal). Mark's point about companies only pulling out after anti-Semitic comments, not anti-black ones. Joe's critique of apologies tied to album rollouts.
3Brandy's Creative Rift with Rodney Jerkins
Brandy's new book reveals a significant creative fallout with producer Rodney Jerkins during the 'Human' album era. Brandy felt Jerkins gave her 'mid' work while simultaneously giving their shared 'sound' to other prominent female artists. The breaking point was Jerkins allegedly telling her, 'Go do what you're going to do while I go sell 5 million records with Beyonce.' The hosts debate the ownership of a 'sound' and the responsibility of artists in selecting material, with some suggesting Brandy's career run was already declining.
Brandy's quote: 'Go do what you're going to do while I go sell 5 million records with Beyonce.' Discussion of her 'Human' album (2008) and her previous successful albums like 'Full Moon' and 'Never Say Never.'
4Trick Daddy's AKA Sorority Performance Controversy
Trick Daddy's performance at an Alpha Kappa Alpha (AKA) sorority conference was cut short due to 'inappropriate music, language, and comments.' The hosts debate whether the fault lies with Trick Daddy for not performing 'clean' versions or with the event organizers for booking an artist whose known persona clashes with the sorority's 'bougie' and 'conservative' image. Many attendees were enjoying the performance, highlighting a disconnect between the general audience and leadership's expectations.
Tiffany Moore Russell's statement about Trick Daddy ignoring requirements for attire, language, and specific songs. Trick Daddy's video response denying he agreed to clean versions and defending his artistic identity. Footage showing attendees enjoying his performance.
5Skepticism Around Savannah Guthrie's Mother's Disappearance
The hosts express deep skepticism regarding the ongoing disappearance of Savannah Guthrie's mother, Nancy Guthrie. They question the lack of official updates and the exclusive nature of information leaks to TMZ, which often involve Bitcoin ransom demands. The hosts speculate that more people involved in the case know more than they are revealing, suggesting a 'crock' or a cover-up due to the prominence and wealth involved.
Discussion of Nancy Guthrie's two-month disappearance, Savannah Guthrie's return to TV, and TMZ's reports of a tipster seeing her alive in Mexico and demanding Bitcoin.
Quotes
"I just think as a man when judging men that are frailer than you, you should have like a checklist that you answer first to make sure they don't have a gun."
"I think what pisses me off is that none of these companies would have pulled out when he said slavery was a choice. None of these countries when he said, you know, all the white lives matter stuff when he was antagonizing black folk. None of these corporations would have pulled out. They are pulling out on this issue. I don't like that. But I'm consistent across the board."
"Go do what you're going to do while I go sell 5 million records with Beyonce."
"Don't use my name to clean the same face with your mother. So don't lie on me. That's the definition my charact Don't don't mother defamate my character."
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