Tom Segura: The Early Years | Are You Garbage Comedy Podcast w/ Kevin Ryan & H. Foley
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Summary
Takeaways
- ❖Tom Segura initially moved to LA for comedic acting, not stand-up, enrolling in Groundlings classes.
- ❖His first stand-up gig was booked without a single joke written, a testament to his early naiveté.
- ❖Early career involved a series of low-paying jobs like a panini shop worker, reality TV logger, and production site rep, to support his comedy.
- ❖Touring as a feature act meant earning $100 per show with no airfare, viewing it as an 'investment' in stage reps.
- ❖He gained 25 pounds in his first year on the road due to constant high-fat breakfasts, late-night eating, and poor sleep.
- ❖The 2014 Netflix special 'Completely Normal' was the unexpected catalyst for his financial breakthrough, leading to significant show bonuses.
- ❖Segura's 'trashy' habits included daily diarrhea on the road, hours of porn consumption, and neglecting personal hygiene.
Insights
1Accidental Entry into Stand-Up
Segura moved to LA in 2002 aiming for comedic acting, enrolling in Groundlings. It was fellow stand-up comics in his class, Nick Wagner and Sam Tripoli, who suggested he try stand-up, leading to his first booked show with no material prepared.
He was like, 'You should try standup.' I was like, 'What?' They go, 'No, I don't.' I I was like, 'What?' And they go, 'You'd like that. I can just tell I think you would like that.'
2The 'Graduate School' Approach to Early Touring
Early feature gigs paid $100 per show with no airfare, forcing Segura to view touring as an investment in stage time and experience rather than immediate income. This period was characterized by financial loss but significant skill development.
I looked at it kind of like going to graduate school. You know, you have to like figure it. You go it's an investment. You have to invest because you're not making money. You're losing money like every you're getting the reps.
3Unhealthy Lifestyle During the Grind
Segura's early touring lifestyle was marked by poor health habits: eating high-fat breakfasts with soda, fantasizing about naps, daily diarrhea, and significant weight gain. He describes feeling 'lethargic' and 'exhausted' constantly.
I would eat those for breakfast with a Coke. Mhm. Like that's how I started. And then you land and then and then the thing becomes... I would have diarrhea every day.
4Netflix Special as a Breakthrough Catalyst
His first Netflix special, released in March 2014, was initially met with minimal immediate impact. However, by June/July, he started hitting unexpected bonuses at comedy clubs, indicating a delayed but significant increase in his audience and earning potential.
I remember that the special came out in March of 2014. I remember that in June or July I played the Cleveland improv and the guy was a real ball buster there, Lee. And uh he goes he goes I don't know what's going on but you hit some bonuses and I don't know why.
5Full-Circle Moment in Production
Segura worked as a site representative, overseeing film productions at various locations. Years later, he filmed season two of his show 'Bad Thoughts' at the headquarters of the very company he used to work for, highlighting his career progression.
We just filmed season two of Bad Thoughts. And one of the places that we shot was the headquarters of this place that I used to work at. So the owner was like, 'It's crazy that you used to work here and now we're shooting your show here.'
Bottom Line
The perception of success can be a significant motivator, even if the reality is still a struggle. Segura's early confidence in comedy, despite having no material, and his initial belief that touring was 'easy' shows a necessary delusion for early-stage artists.
Maintaining a high level of self-belief, even when unfounded, can propel individuals through the initial, unrewarding stages of a challenging career path.
Develop programs or mentorships that help emerging artists cultivate resilience and a 'delusional optimism' to navigate the inevitable early failures and slow progress.
The 'comedy condo' system, while financially beneficial for clubs, fostered isolation and unhealthy habits for touring comedians due to its often squalid conditions and lack of amenities.
The environment in which artists work significantly impacts their well-being and performance. Substandard living conditions can exacerbate mental and physical health issues.
Invest in better artist accommodations or provide resources for healthy living on the road. This could be a niche for hospitality businesses catering specifically to touring performers with higher standards than traditional 'comedy condos'.
Opportunities
Comedian-Friendly Bakery Chain
Inspired by Segura's love for chocolate croissants and his current bakery involvement, a chain of bakeries specifically catering to the late-night schedules and comfort food cravings of touring comedians and artists. Offers high-quality, indulgent pastries and breakfast items available into the early morning hours.
Lessons
- Embrace the 'graduate school' mindset for early career stages: prioritize skill development and experience over immediate financial gain, viewing initial losses as necessary investments.
- Actively manage your physical and mental health during demanding career phases; poor lifestyle choices (diet, sleep, isolation) can severely impact productivity and well-being, even if not immediately apparent.
- Cultivate a strong support network: the isolation of early career can be detrimental, and having trusted friends on the road significantly improves the experience and reduces burnout.
Notable Moments
Tom Segura recounts unknowingly shitting his pants during a 14-16 hour production day while on Adderall and another stimulant. He didn't realize until 7-8 hours later at home, and a costume department member discreetly handled the soiled comfort sweats.
This anecdote hilariously and vividly illustrates the extreme physical and mental exhaustion, combined with poor self-awareness, that can occur during intense work periods, reinforcing his 'trashy' early persona.
Quotes
"I don't know what's going on but you hit some bonuses and I don't know why."
"I was like, 'This shit's easy, dude.' And then I leave there and I'm like, I don't know what I'm going to do."
"There's nothing better than diarrhea in a hotel room cuz you're just like, it don't matter. It's not."
"I'm like a video game and I'm like I'm going to go shut it down till showtime. I'll see you in the green room and then you're like I don't know what it is, man. But like I got to feel like I got to change something a little sluggish."
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