$100M+ Advice That'll Piss Off Every Business Guru (ft. DHH)
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Takeaways
- ❖Being a private company offers the privilege to avoid disclosing financials and operate without external constraints.
- ❖Out-thinking competitors through unique philosophy and content is more effective than out-spending them on ads.
- ❖Youthful 'liquid intelligence' combined with 'ignorance' of established norms can lead to groundbreaking ideas.
- ❖Constraints, like limited funding, can force creative solutions and lead to significant innovations (e.g., Ruby on Rails).
- ❖Avoid 'resulting' – evaluating decisions solely by their outcome; focus on the quality of the decision-making process.
- ❖High profit margins provide the luxury to prioritize taste and intuition over micro-optimizations and 'grinding'.
- ❖The 'nobody knows anything' principle applies to complex business phenomena, emphasizing the limits of data-driven certainty.
- ❖Building a company where founders genuinely want to work ensures longevity and avoids the 'grind' mentality.
- ❖Fighting for principles, even against powerful platforms like Apple, can reinforce integrity and open new avenues for innovation.
Insights
1The Strategic Advantage of Private Companies
Operating as a private company allows 37signals to avoid disclosing full revenues and profits, providing a competitive advantage by keeping rivals unaware of their success. This privacy also frees them from external pressures, enabling a focus on long-term vision and internal values.
DHH states, 'That's one of the great privileges of being a private company. It certainly served us well for many, many years when we had the entire project management space in SAS to ourselves. And we were laughing all the way to the bank because clearly someone else must have realized this was a highly profitable not even niche but category of software and it just took a decade until anyone else woke up to the idea that this could be a good business and then we had competition.'
2Out-Thinking, Not Out-Spending, as a Marketing Strategy
Without VC funding, 37signals couldn't outspend competitors on marketing. Instead, they focused on generating awareness by being 'interesting' and 'ruthlessly honest' through their philosophy and observations, which naturally attracted an audience and earned attention.
DHH explains, 'If you don't have a bunch of money to buy ads and awareness that way, you have to earn it and the way to earn it is simply to be interesting. Now I don't set out to be interesting as an objective. I try to be ruthlessly honest and very forthright in everything that I learn. And that in turn turns out to be interesting to some people some of the time.'
3Ignorance as a Catalyst for Innovation
DHH argues that a lack of prior knowledge and an 'irreverent personality' in youth can be a significant benefit, allowing individuals to challenge established paradigms and create novel solutions without being constrained by 'how things are supposed to be done.'
DHH states, 'Ignorance is a benefit for a huge class of problems that you are cursed when you've been through the loop once. When you know too much, you cannot unseed. In the same way you will be locked into paradigms and thought patterns and if you want to break those paradigms if you want to break those thought patterns you kind of got to start from a clean slate.'
4Constraints Drive Creativity and Innovation
The financial and resource constraints faced by 37signals during the dot-com bust forced them to be scrappy, productive, and rely on open-source tools. This environment directly led to the creation of Ruby on Rails, a technology born out of necessity for radical efficiency.
DHH recounts, 'All of those constraints apply themselves to our situation and then just produces an explosion of creativity because that's what very often happens. When you are deprived in all the right ways, you will find out, oh, there's a better way to do this.' He adds, 'I mean this in my case on the technical side was the birth of Ruby on Rails.'
5The 'Nobody Knows Anything' Principle in Business
DHH observes that even at the highest levels of successful companies like Shopify, the precise reasons for significant growth or success are often unknown. This highlights the limitations of data and theories in fully explaining complex business outcomes, suggesting that intuition and long-term commitment play a larger role than often admitted.
DHH notes, 'Even Toby, we don't really know like why did it take Shopify, what is it gonna be, 22 years to get to this moment where it just had its best year since the craziest of the peak co years. Isn't that fascinating?' He concludes, 'The amount of stuff that people don't know is amazing. I mean, I wrote a blog post a while back basically putting that to the point of nobody knows anything.'
6The Evolution of AI: From Autocomplete to Agent Explosion
DHH initially appreciated AI but found early LLMs (like autocomplete) disruptive to his workflow due to aesthetic and 'wrong' suggestions. However, the advanced models released in late 2023 dramatically shifted his perspective, leading him to embrace AI as a powerful tool that amplifies individual productivity, likening it to gaining '18 arms and seven more brains.'
DHH describes his shift: 'The models that dropped in late November... That class of intelligence suddenly switched from I don't like what it's making to holy [expletive] what how okay I'm going to merge.' He adds, 'It is more like I've grown 18 arms and seven more brains and I'm operating 22 screens.'
7The Diminishing Returns of 'Jab, Jab, Right Hook' in Modern Social Media
DHH observes that the traditional strategy of building an audience by consistently providing value ('jabs') and occasionally asking for a sale ('right hook') is less effective today. Social media algorithms, particularly on platforms like X, suppress promotional content, making it harder for 'right hooks' to reach an audience, even with many followers.
DHH states, 'What I've seen... is that the right hook doesn't travel anymore because all the main media outlets... the algorithm is just never going to show your stuff.' He concludes, 'I don't think it converts or works as well as it once did.'
8Building a Company You Love for Longevity
The primary objective for 37signals' longevity is ensuring it remains a place where DHH and Jason Fried genuinely want to work. This commitment to personal satisfaction and avoiding 'grinding' prevents founders from becoming trapped in a business they dislike, fostering a more sustainable and enjoyable long-term venture.
DHH explains, 'The number one objective both Jason and I is to ensure that 37 signals is still a place we want to work. Not just want to work, but like to work is our favorite place to work.' He contrasts this with entrepreneurs who 'managed to build a company they don't like and they would love to get out of it.'
9The Principle of 'No-Permission' Platforms
DHH's career is built on the internet and open-source, both 'no-permission' platforms. He fiercely opposes the gatekeeping tendencies of companies like Apple, exemplified by 37signals' public battle over App Store fees for their HEY email service. This stance reflects a deep-seated belief in open access and user freedom.
DHH asserts, 'This entire business, my entire career is premised on two main things. The internet open source and what those two share is that there's no one to ask for permission.' He describes the Apple conflict as 'completely incompatible with what I wanted to see in the world.'
Bottom Line
High margins provide the 'luxury' to disregard traditional A/B testing and micro-optimizations, allowing founders to follow their intuition and taste.
This challenges the dogma that all businesses must relentlessly optimize every metric. For companies with strong product-market fit and healthy margins, prioritizing founder vision and user experience (based on taste) can be more effective and enjoyable than chasing marginal gains.
Entrepreneurs can focus on building products they genuinely love and believe in, rather than getting bogged down in 'grinding' out incremental improvements. This approach fosters a more authentic brand and potentially stronger long-term customer loyalty.
External constraints, like lacking capital or being in a 'wasteland' market, can be a powerful catalyst for radical innovation, forcing novel solutions that wouldn't emerge in resource-rich environments.
This flips the narrative that more resources automatically lead to better innovation. Scarcity can breed ingenuity, leading to breakthroughs (like Ruby on Rails) that outcompete well-funded rivals relying on conventional methods.
Founders in resource-constrained environments should view limitations as creative challenges, not disadvantages. By embracing these constraints, they can develop unique, efficient, and potentially disruptive solutions that larger, less agile competitors overlook.
The 'nobody knows anything' principle suggests that even highly successful companies often don't fully understand the precise drivers of their own success, highlighting the limits of data and theory in complex systems.
This implies that while data is useful, an overreliance on it can lead to false confidence or misinterpretations. Intuition, long-term vision, and a willingness to embrace uncertainty are crucial for navigating complex business landscapes.
Leaders should cultivate a healthy skepticism towards definitive explanations for success or failure. This allows for more adaptive strategies, a focus on core principles, and an openness to unexpected outcomes, rather than rigidly adhering to theories that may not fully capture reality.
Key Concepts
Resulting
Evaluating the quality of a decision based solely on its outcome, rather than the process and probabilities at the time the decision was made. DHH argues this is a fallacy, especially in business, where good decisions can have bad outcomes and vice-versa in the short term.
Liquid vs. Crystallized Intelligence
Liquid intelligence refers to the ability to reason quickly and think abstractly, often peaking in youth. Crystallized intelligence is accumulated knowledge and skills, which tends to increase with age. DHH posits that 'liquid intelligence' combined with 'ignorance' in youth is crucial for generating novel, world-changing ideas, as it allows for breaking paradigms without the burden of 'knowing too much'.
The Luxury of Margins
High profit margins provide a company with the financial freedom to prioritize creative vision, intuition, and employee satisfaction over aggressive growth, constant optimization, or investor demands. This allows for a more sustainable and enjoyable business operation, even if it means foregoing some short-term gains.
Lessons
- Prioritize building a company with high margins from day one to gain freedom and reduce external pressures, allowing you to focus on what you genuinely enjoy.
- Cultivate a strong, unique philosophy and share it openly; this 'out-thinks' competitors by earning attention and building a loyal audience, rather than just buying ads.
- Embrace constraints and 'ignorance' as opportunities for radical creativity. When resources are limited, innovative solutions are often born out of necessity.
- Evaluate decisions based on the quality of the process and probabilities, not just the outcome. Avoid 'resulting' to learn effectively from both successes and failures.
- Actively fight for 'no-permission' platforms and principles you believe in, even if it means challenging powerful entities. Such battles can reinforce integrity and open new avenues for growth and community.
Notable Moments
DHH discusses 37signals' 1999 manifesto and 'Rework' philosophy, emphasizing leading with beliefs over product features.
This highlights 37signals' long-standing strategy of building an audience and earning trust through shared philosophy, a key element of their 'out-think, not out-spend' approach.
DHH recounts the origin of Ruby on Rails being directly tied to the resource constraints faced by 37signals after the dot-com bust.
This provides a concrete example of how deprivation and necessity can be powerful drivers of groundbreaking innovation, challenging the notion that abundant resources are always best for creativity.
DHH shares his initial skepticism and later 'pilling' on AI, describing how recent advancements have radically changed his personal workflow and perception of computing.
This illustrates the rapid evolution of AI and offers a relatable perspective from a seasoned technologist on adapting to disruptive technologies, emphasizing the 'agent explosion' as a game-changer.
DHH details 37signals' public battle with Apple over App Store fees for their HEY email product.
This exemplifies DHH's commitment to 'no-permission' platforms and fighting for principles, showcasing how a bootstrapped company can successfully challenge a tech giant and influence industry rules.
Quotes
"If you don't have a bunch of money to buy ads and awareness that way, you have to earn it and the way to earn it is simply to be interesting."
"Ignorance is a benefit for a huge class of problems that you are cursed when you've been through the loop once."
"When you are deprived in all the right ways, you will find out, oh, there's a better way to do this."
"Resulting is evaluating your decision on the basis of the outcome alone."
"The more margin we have, the more freedom we have. The more freedom we have, the more we could just focus our time on what we like to do."
"Nobody knows anything. Whether we're talking about climate change or what AI is going to look like in 2 years or why Shopify is able to grow 30% year-over-year in year 22. Uh, no one knows anything."
"Ruby is designed to make the programmer feel good. Like, what? Wait, what did you just say? It's about programmer happiness. What hippie dippy [expletive] is this?"
"The number one objective both Jason and I is to ensure that 37 signals is still a place we want to work. Not just want to work, but like to work is our favorite place to work."
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