Bombshell New Details: Ransom Note Claims Nancy Was "Buried With Nature" | Nancy Guthrie Missing

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New reports reveal the second ransom note in the Nancy Guthrie disappearance claimed she died unintentionally and was 'buried with nature,' sparking questions about delayed media reporting and the FBI's handling of potential informants.
Second ransom note claimed Nancy Guthrie died unintentionally and was 'buried with nature,' still demanding money.
Media outlets knew about the death claim for months but only recently reported it, raising transparency concerns.
FBI 'ghosted' TMZ on a plan to pay a potential informant for location details, indicating a cold case mentality.

Summary

Ashleigh Banfield discusses recent bombshell reports regarding the Nancy Guthrie missing person case, specifically focusing on details from a second ransom note. This note, received days after Guthrie's disappearance, reportedly stated she died unintentionally and was 'buried with nature,' while still demanding money for her body. Banfield critiques the media's delay in reporting these details and questions the FBI's investigative approach, particularly their 'ghosting' of TMZ's Harvey Levin regarding a potential informant who claimed knowledge of Guthrie's location in Mexico. The episode explores theories about the abductor being an educated local opportunist rather than a cartel member, and the task force's reliance on the ransom notes 'by default' due to a lack of other leads.
These newly reported details from the second ransom note fundamentally alter the understanding of Nancy Guthrie's disappearance, suggesting her death occurred early in the abduction. The revelations highlight potential missteps in early investigative focus and media reporting, raising critical questions about transparency and the effectiveness of law enforcement's pursuit of leads, including the controversial decision to not engage with a potential informant via a proposed documentary.

Takeaways

  • A second ransom note, sent days after Nancy Guthrie vanished, claimed she died unintentionally and was 'buried with nature,' still demanding money for her body.
  • Multiple media outlets, including ABC News and NewsNation, recently confirmed details of this note, which had been rumored for months but not officially reported.
  • The FBI and Pima County homicide detectives formed a sequestered task force, now reportedly focusing on the ransom notes 'by default' due to a lack of other leads.
  • TMZ's Harvey Levin revealed the FBI 'ghosted' him after he proposed a plan to pay a fearful informant for information about Nancy Guthrie's location in Mexico, potentially via a documentary.
  • Early in the investigation, law enforcement was criticized for focusing heavily on Nancy's brother-in-law, potentially missing critical early leads.
  • The first ransom note contained details like Nancy's clothing and a broken floodlight, but the host questions the specificity of these details as unique to the abductors.
  • Investigators theorize the abductor was an 'educated local opportunist' who saw a chance for a 'windfall,' rather than a cartel member, and that the scheme disintegrated when Nancy died.
  • An anonymous tip led a Mexican women's organization to search for Nancy Guthrie near the border, unearthing 25 unmarked graves, but found no trace of her.
  • The FBI's initial response to the disappearance was criticized for delays, especially given Tucson's proximity to the Mexican border, making international involvement harder to manage.

Insights

1Second Ransom Note Revealed Nancy Guthrie's Alleged Death

Reports from ABC News, NewsNation, and Air Mail confirm that a second ransom note, received four days after Nancy Guthrie's disappearance (six days after abduction), stated she had died shortly after being taken. The note reportedly claimed her death was unintentional and that she was 'buried with nature,' yet still demanded money for her body.

ABC News quote: 'The second note, according to sources, said that she had died shortly after she was taken and was, quote, buried in nature.' NewsNation added it was 'unintentional.' Howard Blum's reporting described a 'sputtering and labored apology' for an 'inadvertent death,' followed by an offer to deliver her body for a sum.

2Delayed Media Reporting and Family's Public Statement

Ashleigh Banfield questions why these critical details about Nancy Guthrie's death, known among media outlets for months, were only recently reported. She suggests that Savannah Guthrie's public statement on February 6th, where she said, 'We received your message and we understand. We beg you now to return our mother to us so that we can celebrate with her,' was a subtle acknowledgment of the death claim, interpreted by many at the time as a 'celebration of life' rather than a reunion.

Host's commentary on media delay () and re-interpretation of Savannah Guthrie's statement from February 6th (, ).

3FBI 'Ghosted' TMZ on Informant Payment Plan

Harvey Levin of TMZ revealed he had an ongoing dialogue with an informant claiming to know the kidnappers and Nancy Guthrie's location in Mexico. After the informant expressed fear of claiming the reward, Levin proposed a plan to the FBI: TMZ would pay the informant, film a documentary, and provide an anonymous buffer, without compromising the investigation. The FBI agent, previously responsive, 'ghosted' Levin after this proposal, indicating a lack of interest or willingness to pursue this unconventional lead.

Harvey Levin's account of the informant's communications (), his proposal to the FBI (), and the FBI agent's subsequent unresponsiveness ().

4Investigation Relies on Ransom Notes 'By Default'

Howard Blum's reporting suggests the special task force, comprising FBI agents and Pima County homicide detectives, is 'returning by default' to the ransom notes as the focal point of the investigation. This implies a lack of other substantial leads after 140+ days, raising concerns about the initial investigative efforts and potential tunnel vision on other suspects.

Host quoting Howard Blum: 'Special task force... find themselves returning by default to the ransom notes... By default? Meaning, we got nothing else, so we might as well go back to the ransom notes.' (, ).

5Theorized Abductor Profile: Educated Local Opportunist

Investigators' working theory, based on the language in the ransom notes, suggests the abductor was an 'educated, articulate, and knowledgeable about the intricacies of cryptocurrency' local opportunist. This contrasts with earlier speculations of cartel involvement and implies the individual was 'in over their head' when the scheme disintegrated due to Nancy Guthrie's death, possibly from violence or illness, given her frail health.

Host quoting Howard Blum: 'The kidnapper is educated, articulate, and knowledgeable about the intricacies of cryptocurrency... someone in over their head.' (). Also, 'The working theory... is that the abductor was an opportunist, a ruthless, educated local who saw their chance... only to have their scheme disintegrate when... Guthrie died.' ().

Lessons

  • If you have any information regarding the Nancy Guthrie case, contact the FBI at 1-800-CALL-FBI, or if you fear speaking to police, send anonymous tips to dropdeadseriousinfo@gmail.com.
  • Review personal data privacy settings and consider using services like Incogni to remove personal information from data brokers, as discussed in the episode's sponsor message, to mitigate risks of 'wrench attacks' or other data-driven crimes.
  • For those in law enforcement or media, reflect on the ethical implications of delayed reporting on critical case details and the potential for innovative, FBI-approved strategies (like paying informants via third parties) in cold cases.

Quotes

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"The second note, according to sources, said that she had died shortly after she was taken and was, quote, buried in nature."

ABC News (quoted by Ashleigh Banfield)
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"We received your message and we understand. We beg you now to return our mother to us so that we can celebrate with her. This is the only way we will have peace. This is very valuable to us and we will pay."

Savannah Guthrie
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"The way this case is going to be solved is some guy is going to go to a bar and start bragging about this and one thing's going to lead to another and they're going to end up finding these people."

FBI Agent (quoted by Harvey Levin)
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"There's nothing like a scorned girlfriend to crack a case."

Harvey Levin

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