Mehdi Hasan DEBATES Iran War, Qatar/China DARK Money & Racism In America | PBD #812
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Takeaways
- ❖Mehdi Hasan, a British-American journalist, attributes greater opportunities for people of color in the US compared to the UK to the US's larger market and less 'stodgy' legacy of empire.
- ❖Hasan contends that Donald Trump is easily manipulated by foreign leaders, citing instances where leaders like Netanyahu and Saudi officials leveraged his ego for their own agendas.
- ❖The debate highlights a significant disconnect between public opinion (especially among young people) and congressional policy regarding US support for Israel, which Hasan attributes to powerful lobbying efforts.
- ❖Hasan criticizes the UK's economic decline and social issues, attributing them to austerity measures and Brexit, rather than immigration.
Insights
1US Foreign Policy and Israeli Influence
Mehdi Hasan asserts that American presidents, including Donald Trump and Joe Biden, have consistently been outmaneuvered by Benjamin Netanyahu. He claims that the US often provides a 'green light' for Israeli military actions, leading to regional destabilization. Hasan argues that the narrative of a split between US and Israeli leadership is often a spin, as both nations are frequently aligned on key actions.
Hasan references an Axios piece by Barack Ravid, a journalist known for leaking White House information on Israel, detailing Trump's alleged angry call with Netanyahu. He also cites Netanyahu's own words about dreaming of attacking Iran for 40 years and finding a receptive ear in Trump [], [], [].
2Israel's Societal Shift to the Far-Right
Hasan argues that the current Israeli government's aggressive stance in the region is not solely Netanyahu's vision but reflects a broader, deeply entrenched shift of Israeli society to the far-right. He points to polling data suggesting significant public support for military operations and even ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, challenging the notion that opposition leaders offer a substantially different path.
Hasan cites polling data indicating 80% Israeli support for military operations and a majority supporting the removal of Palestinians from Gaza. He mentions interviews with Israeli opposition leaders like Naftali Bennett and Avigdor Lieberman, who also hold hawkish views, with Bennett explicitly stating, 'The Bible says it's ours' regarding territory [], [].
3Foreign Money and Influence in US Politics and Education
The discussion highlights the substantial financial influence of foreign entities like Qatar and China in American universities and political lobbying. Hasan argues that while young people's opinions on issues like Israel are shifting, congressional policy remains largely unaffected due to the power of lobbying groups, creating a 'crisis of democracy'.
Bet-David cites China's estimated $5.6-$6.4 billion investment in American universities and Qatar's $400 million plane gift to Trump. Hasan counters that despite significant foreign spending, Israel's lobbying efforts still dominate, leading to censorship of pro-Palestinian speech on campuses and in Congress [], [].
4Racism and Immigration in US Politics
Hasan strongly asserts that the Republican party, particularly under Donald Trump, exhibits systemic racism through its rhetoric and policies, especially concerning immigration and minority communities. He argues that Trump's refugee policies disproportionately favor white individuals and that demonizing minority groups has real-world, violent consequences.
Hasan cites Trump's alleged statement telling Rashida Tlaib to 'go back to where you came from' and his administration's refugee policy, which reportedly allowed 99.9% white South African refugees while blocking those from Middle Eastern countries. He links right-wing rhetoric to real-world violence, referencing a mosque attack by 'Nazi teenagers' [], [].
Lessons
- Critically evaluate political narratives from all sides, especially those presented by mainstream media, recognizing potential biases and spin from political actors.
- Examine the influence of lobbying groups and foreign money on political policy, particularly when there's a disconnect between public opinion and legislative action.
- Be aware of how political rhetoric, especially concerning minority groups, can have real-world consequences and contribute to social division or violence.
Notable Moments
Mehdi Hasan recounts his father's provocative act of buying and displaying Salman Rushdie's 'Satanic Verses' during the fatwa controversy to challenge unread condemnation.
This anecdote illustrates Hasan's upbringing in a household that valued intellectual curiosity and provocative questioning, directly influencing his own journalistic style and willingness to challenge established norms.
Hasan describes his 'Resting Angry Muslim Face' (RAMF) as a barrier to political aspirations, contrasting it with charismatic politicians like Zoran Mamani.
This humorous but insightful comment highlights the societal pressures and stereotypes faced by minority politicians, particularly the expectation to appear non-threatening or perpetually 'smiling' to appeal to a broader electorate.
The debate over Trump's manipulability by foreign leaders, particularly Netanyahu, and the credibility of leaked information regarding their interactions.
This exchange underscores the challenges of discerning truth in political reporting, especially when powerful actors on both sides engage in strategic leaking and spin to control narratives and influence public perception.
Quotes
"The US has given me opportunities and open doors that even the UK I don't think could have done really. And I think you hear that from a lot of black and brown folks from the UK."
"I have what's called RAMF. I have resting angry Muslim face. So when I'm talking to people, when I'm listening, I look mad."
"What does it say about our leader, the president of the United States, the commander-in-chief, the self-proclaimed leader of the free world, that it's so easy to play this guy?"
"The Bible says it's ours. I'd never heard someone say it that bluntly to my face. I can't imagine Ilhan Omar going on TV and said, 'The Quran says this.'"
"If you're able to expand, so if Hamas goes into Israel, you're for that. It's not about the if I'm for that or not. If you're able to successfully do it, that's your vision. I know I have to defend against it."
"I would pay money to any White House correspondent watching. They get fired on the spot by the government. It's it's it's it's obvious. Do do you put him as an intelligent man?"
"Donald Trump would not have allowed little Patrick Bet-David into this country. How do you feel about that?"
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