The Girls Are FIGHTING + Colleen's New Song is Worse Than Toxic Gossip Train... | Just Trish Ep. 268
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Takeaways
- ❖Mina's departure from K-pop group Catsai is confirmed by her exclusion from the group's upcoming EP versions, not just a hiatus.
- ❖Sabrina Carpenter's Coachella set faced criticism for long interstitial videos and a culturally misunderstood 'yodel' moment.
- ❖Justin Bieber's simple Coachella performance, featuring old YouTube videos, garnered 125 million views, emphasizing his unique connection with fans.
- ❖Influencers like Brand Flakes received backlash for accepting Starbucks brand deals for Coachella, sparking debate over ethical consistency and alleged payment amounts (far less than rumored $200k).
- ❖The ongoing feud between Alex Cooper and Alex Earl escalated with Alex Earl reposting a TikTok calling Cooper the 'grim reaper' of women's stories.
- ❖Lena Dunham's memoir details her infidelity, triggered by Jack Antonoff's close relationship with a then-teenage Lorde during their collaboration.
- ❖Clavicular's recent overdose and subsequent social media posts, including a selfie with a life support mask, highlight his ongoing struggles and controversial 'looks maxing' persona.
- ❖Colleen Ballinger's new song, featuring her children's voices and lyrics about drugging them with melatonin to facilitate sex, is widely condemned as deeply inappropriate.
Insights
1Mina's Confirmed Departure from Catsai
The K-pop group Catsai announced their third EP with individual versions for only five members, explicitly excluding Mina. This confirmed her permanent departure, contradicting earlier statements that she was merely on a hiatus for health and wellness, which Oscar had held out hope for.
Oscar notes the five individual EP versions (Della, Sophia, Yun, Megan, Lara) and the absence of Mina's version, confirming her exit. Mina was also seen in the audience at Coachella, not performing.
2Sabrina Carpenter's Coachella Performance Backlash
Sabrina Carpenter's Coachella set was met with significant online criticism. Key points of contention included a 'yodel moment' that was culturally misunderstood (an Arab celebratory sound), and excessively long interstitial videos, such as a five-minute opening and a nearly ten-minute Susan Sarandon monologue, which disrupted the pacing for live and online audiences.
Oscar details the 'yodel moment debacle' and Sabrina's apology, explaining the cultural misinterpretation. He also points out the 'too long' interstitials, specifically mentioning the opening video and Susan Sarandon's monologue.
3Justin Bieber's 'Artistic' Coachella Set and Fan Connection
Justin Bieber's Coachella performance, characterized by its simplicity and use of his own YouTube music videos as a backdrop, was framed as a deeply intimate and artistic experience for his core fanbase. Despite its minimalist approach compared to other elaborate sets, it became the most viewed performance with 125 million views, reinforcing his unique connection with an audience that grew with him through YouTube.
Moses highlights Bieber's use of YouTube music videos and the strong connection to his audience, stating it was a 'once-in-a-lifetime performance.' Trisha notes his 125 million views and the 'hype' around his talent.
4Influencer Backlash Over Starbucks Coachella Deals
Influencers, notably Brand Flakes, faced severe criticism for accepting Starbucks brand deals for Coachella, especially given Starbucks' controversial political stance. The hosts discuss the alleged payment amounts (debunking the rumored $200,000, suggesting closer to $20,000-$50,000 or just accommodations) and the 'out of touch' nature of influencers complaining about boycotts while accepting lucrative deals.
Trisha and Oscar discuss Brand Flakes' Starbucks deal and the backlash. They question the $200,000 figure, with Trisha stating she knows for a fact it's not that high, and Oscar suggesting 20k-50k max. They also mention his 'out of touch' apology.
5Alex Cooper vs. Alex Earl: The Influencer Feud
The ongoing public feud between podcast host Alex Cooper and influencer Alex Earl escalated. Alex Earl, who previously left Cooper's Unwell Network, reposted a TikTok accusing Alex Cooper's 'Call Her Daddy' podcast of 'exploiting women's vulnerabilities' and likening her to a 'grim reaper' who profits from others' trauma. This direct accusation prompted Alex Cooper to publicly challenge Alex Earl to 'just say it' and reveal the full 'tea.'
Oscar details Alex Earl's departure from Unwell and her vague TikToks hinting at drama. He then describes Alex Earl reposting 'The Bravo Mom's' TikTok, which directly accused Alex Cooper of being an 'ambulance chaser' and 'grim reaper.' Trisha confirms Alex Cooper's direct challenge to Alex Earl.
6Katy Perry Faces Sexual Assault Allegations and Police Investigation
Ruby Rose publicly accused Katy Perry of sexually assaulting her in 2010 by 'rubbing her disgusting vagina' on Ruby's face at a party in Melbourne. Ruby Rose filed a police report in Australia, leading to an official investigation. This accusation has resurfaced other past claims of inappropriate behavior by Katy Perry, including an incident with Anna Kendrick and a male model.
Oscar reports Ruby Rose's specific allegations and the police investigation in Australia. He also cites Anna Kendrick's 2014 interview about Katy Perry 'fingerbanging her cleavage' and a male model's 2019 claim of being 'pantsed' by Perry in 2011.
7Lena Dunham's Memoir Reveals Cheating and Emotional Affair with Lorde
Lena Dunham's new memoir details her infidelity to then-boyfriend Jack Antonoff, which she attributes to his 'emotional affair' with a then-teenage Lorde (18-19 years old, Antonoff was 34) while they collaborated on music and Lorde stayed at their apartment. Dunham describes feeling neglected and triggered by Antonoff's tenderness towards Lorde, leading her to seek intimacy elsewhere.
Oscar explains Lena Dunham's admission of cheating on Jack Antonoff, citing her description of him being 'locked in a room with a teen pop star' (Lorde) and his 'expansive generosity' towards her. Lena's book also mentions Lorde calling her 'Aunt Lena' and her own subsequent affair to 'fix herself.'
8Colleen Ballinger's Controversial New Song
Colleen Ballinger released a new song that has sparked widespread outrage due to its highly inappropriate and disturbing lyrics. The song, which features her children's voices in the background, includes a line where she states she 'drugged them with melatonin' to facilitate sex with her husband. This is seen as a significant misstep, especially given her past allegations of inappropriate behavior involving minors.
Trisha quotes the lyric 'I drug them with melatonin' and mentions the kids' voices saying 'wipe my butt.' She states it's 'worse than Toxic Gossip Train' given Ballinger's history.
Lessons
- Be explicit and transparent in public statements, especially regarding professional status or health, to avoid misinterpretation and speculation (e.g., 'hiatus' vs. 'leaving the group').
- Consider the cultural context of actions and expressions to avoid unintended offense, particularly in large public forums like festivals.
- Maintain consistency between your public brand/values and your actions, as inconsistencies can lead to significant backlash and accusations of hypocrisy.
- When facing public criticism, a direct and honest response is often more effective than vague statements or blaming the audience.
- Be cautious about signing contracts, especially if you are already a successful figure, as they may not always be in your best interest and can lead to disputes over control and revenue.
Quotes
"Hiatus is very vague. Like, let's get a little bit more specific. Yeah. How about say I'm leaving the group? Yeah. Or Yeah. She's out. Whatever you want to. That was That is the shock of it all."
"I think people are just harsh. I think of all the headliners, like I my opinion, I do think Catsai could have been a better headliner."
"I think people were just impressed that he showed up and that's fierce. $10 million to show up and sing and he did."
"And I think to to his point, he's like, 'Well, I have never said I was boycotting Starbucks.' And that in his apology video, he kind of pointed it back at like the viewer and was like, 'Well, I know some of y'all have iPhones and we're supposed to be boycotting Apple. I know some of y'all have Yeah. shopped at Amazon. You've dranken to Starbucks before, so you're on TikTok.'"
"In women's business, two men you will always find. Harry Jy and Dave."
"She saw me resting on my best friend's lap to avoid her and bent down, pulled her underwear to the side and rubbed her disgusting vagina on my face until my eyes snapped open I and I projectile vomited on her."
"All of the substances are just a cope trying to feel neurotypical while being in public. But obviously that isn't a real solution. The worst part of tonight was my face descending from the life support mask."
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