The Joe Budden Podcast Episode 928 | Money, Muscles & Movement

The hosts introduce 'support hate' as a phenomenon where individuals maintain superficial connections, only contacting someone when they are in trouble or facing public scrutiny. This behavior is framed as a form of veiled antagonism, where the 'supporter' is actually rooting against the person and uses negative events as an opportunity to engage, rather than offering genuine friendship.

Joe Budden describes people who only call him when his 'bank account leaked or some shit,' calling it 'support hate' because they are 'rooting against me but you calling me like we friends.'

The Kevin Hart Roast sparked significant debate over the appropriateness of certain jokes, particularly a George Floyd joke delivered by Kill Tony. The hosts argue that while comedy can be edgy, some topics cross a line, especially in a celebratory event for a black celebrity. The perceived lack of strong negative reaction from Kevin Hart during such jokes was also criticized.

Joe Budden states that Kill Tony's George Floyd joke 'was horrible' and that Kevin Hart 'smiling during it was horrible,' suggesting a line was crossed at a 'black event with black excellence.'

The Audemars Piguet (AP) x Swatch collaboration is analyzed as a strategic move by a luxury brand to address the secondary market and expand its reach. While some argue it cheapens the brand's exclusivity, others contend it's a smart way to introduce the brand to a younger, broader audience and assert ownership over its design elements (like the octagon shape) after losing a trademark battle.

Ish suggests the collaboration is a 'direct response' to AP losing its trademark for the octagon shape, aiming to 'associate that shape with my brand' through mass distribution. Parks notes the watches will be affordable ($300-$500) but will likely see high aftermarket value.

Caitlyn Clark's public image is scrutinized due to her association with controversial figures and her perceived neutrality regarding a fanbase accused of racism. The discussion highlights how public figures, especially those with a large platform, are expected to actively distance themselves from problematic associations, and that neutrality can be interpreted as endorsement.

The hosts discuss Clark walking out with Morgan Wallen, who was 'caught on film using the n-word.' Ish states, 'You're too rich and famous to not have someone in her should be whispering to you that ain't the dude to walk out with.'

Dr. Cheyenne Bryant's explanation for the absence of her doctoral records (due to her university's closure and a two-year record retention policy) is met with skepticism. The hosts emphasize that in the public sphere, such explanations invite further scrutiny, and a simpler, more transparent approach (like posting a dissertation) would be more effective in dispelling doubts.

Mark Hill states that Bryant's explanation 'doesn't fully make sense' and that many former students claim they can still access their records. He suggests the 'best thing to do to disprove this is just post your dissertation.'