The Joe Budden Podcast Episode 896 | Young Men That Carry Arms

The hosts engage in a fervent debate about who ranks higher between Jadakiss and Common. Mark argues that Common's discography, featuring 'indisputable classic albums' like 'Resurrection' and 'Be,' along with his significant cultural impact (e.g., 'I Used to Love H.E.R.' as a hip-hop metaphor), places him above Jadakiss. Joe and others counter that Jadakiss's 'banger list' and consistent elite features make him superior, despite lacking multiple 'classic' solo albums. The debate highlights differing criteria for MC greatness: album quality and cultural significance versus raw lyrical prowess and consistent feature dominance.

Mark cites 'Resurrection,' 'Be,' and 'Like Water for Chocolate' as Common's classic albums and 'I Used to Love H.E.R.' as a culturally impactful track. Joe emphasizes Jadakiss's 'banger list' and versatility in features. The Ice Cube battle for Common is also brought up as a significant moment.

Joe Budden articulates a controversial philosophy regarding new friendships, stating he is 'weary' of new people and only forms relationships with individuals who are 'going somewhere' or 'have something going on.' He differentiates this from existing, long-term friendships, which are 'grandfathered in.' He argues that engaging with people who are 'plateaued' or 'going nowhere' can lead to 'disaster and trouble' and a lack of relatability in conversations, especially as his own life is heavily work-focused.

Joe states, 'I just got views on new friendships. I just got views on new friendships.' He elaborates, 'It's hard to build relationships with people ain't going nowhere when you going somewhere.' He questions, 'Where did they come from? A new box. And why? And why at a… what do you like to do? Like where you come? You going to call me when you get out of Sears?'

Nike released a new LeBron sneaker called 'Honor the King' for MLK Day, which caused widespread outrage. The sneaker's turquoise color was explicitly marketed as being inspired by the Lorraine Motel, the site of Martin Luther King Jr.'s assassination. The hosts, particularly Mark, condemn this as 'disgusting' and 'inconsiderate,' arguing that of all the moments to commemorate Dr. King, Nike chose the moment of his death, where 'his assassins won,' rather than his achievements like the 'I Have a Dream' speech or bus boycotts.

The sneaker's press release stated it 'draws inspiration from the historic Lorraine Motel, the site of the important civil rights activist assassination.' Mark states, 'Don't pick the moment where his assassins won. It's disgusting.'

A Florida woman was denied a refund on her $7,600 wedding venue deposit after her groom passed away from a heart attack five months before the wedding. The event space suggested she use the venue for a memorial. The hosts debate the business's right to uphold its contract versus the moral obligation for human decency. Some argue the business has allocated resources and lost potential bookings, while others contend that profiting from a tragedy is 'bad business' and that the venue should at least refund costs not yet incurred, especially given the five-month lead time.

The woman paid a $7,600 deposit, and her groom passed away five months before the May wedding date. The venue offered no refund. Ice argues, 'It's unfortunate that homeboy passed away... but we could have had mad other people want to book that date.' Mark counters, 'I think human decency has to play in here a little bit.'

The viral sensation 'Mr. Tenderism,' an elderly Black gentleman known for showcasing ribs that 'fall off the bone,' sparked a debate about intellectual property and exploitation. It was revealed that the 'smokehouse' business, which gained immense popularity through his videos, was originally a struggling coffee shop. The older gentleman, as a customer, suggested the idea of selling ribs. The white owner later trademarked 'Tenderism' and, in a video, claimed the gentleman 'had absolutely zero' when they met. This raises concerns about fair compensation and ownership for the person whose idea and persona drove the business's success, especially when the original creator may not be knowledgeable about IP law.

Mr. Tenderism's videos went viral, leading to lines around the block. The business owner, a white man, trademarked 'Tenderism' and stated, 'including this guy who when I met him had absolutely zero.' The coffee shop transformed into a smokehouse based on the older gentleman's idea.

Champion boxer Clarissa Shields called into a YouTube show that was discussing her, but she did so while pretending to be a 'friend' defending her. The hosts find this 'hilarious' and 'embarrassing,' noting that she used her own recognizable voice and eventually slipped into speaking in the first person. They argue that a celebrity of her stature should not engage with such shows, especially not in a deceptive manner, as it undermines her image and gives 'clout' to the critics.

The audio clip reveals a woman, clearly identifiable as Clarissa Shields, defending herself in the third person, then slipping into first-person statements like 'you're saying that my tickets aren't selling for the fight.' Joe states, 'She sounds exactly like Clarissa Shields, which is a large part of why this is hilarious.'