Bobby's Flu Game w/ Tom Segura | Ep 305 | Bad Friends
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Summary
Takeaways
- ❖Bobby Lee is filming his first stand-up special, a long-awaited career event.
- ❖He is performing while sick, leading to the 'flu game' analogy.
- ❖Tom Segura has filmed six Netflix specials, offering a veteran perspective.
- ❖Comedians discuss their approaches to therapy and the importance of a therapist's detachment.
- ❖The group shares strong opinions on recent films and directors, particularly Sean Penn's acting and Ryan Murphy's 'hypersexualized' content.
- ❖Bobby Lee's aggressive banter with Tom Segura is framed as a manifestation of deep affection and self-sabotage.
Insights
1The 'Flu Game' Mentality for a Stand-Up Special
Bobby Lee is preparing for his first stand-up special while experiencing a significant illness (sore throat, body aches). This situation is immediately framed as his 'Michael Jordan flu game,' emphasizing the expectation to perform at an elite level despite physical adversity. The analogy highlights the immense pressure and dedication required for a career-defining performance in comedy.
Bobby states, 'I wake up Monday morning with a sore throat and bodyaches.' Tom Segura and the host then suggest, 'This could be your flu game,' referencing Michael Jordan's legendary 1997 NBA Finals performance.
2Strategic Filming for Comedy Specials
Tom Segura, with his extensive experience of six Netflix specials, advises Bobby on the practicalities of filming. He emphasizes the benefit of taping multiple shows (Bobby is doing four) to allow for editing and to account for potential mistakes or varied performances. This strategy mitigates pressure and ensures a high-quality final product.
Bobby mentions, 'I'm doing four [shows].' The host replies, 'You can piece together different shows, dude. Four shots is a lot. You can cut it up.'
3Comedians and Therapeutic Detachment
The hosts and guest discuss their experiences with therapy. Tom Segura expresses a preference for his therapist to remain completely detached from his public persona and work, believing it allows for more objective and effective treatment. Bobby Lee, in contrast, mentions his therapist watched his work, which he found 'uncomfortable.' This highlights differing views on the boundaries between a public figure's professional life and their therapeutic process.
Tom states, 'I don't like the idea of knowing me at all. I prefer them to not be familiar with me in any way, shape, or form.' Bobby recounts, 'He came back. He's like, 'Yeah, I watched it.' And he's I go, 'What?' He's like, 'I'm so that's so good.' I was like, 'Ah, [expletive] You sound like my mom.'
4Critique of Hypersexualized Storytelling in Hollywood
The discussion shifts to film and television, with a strong critique of director Ryan Murphy's perceived tendency to 'hypersexualize' his content, even in serious dramatic narratives. The hosts express frustration that this approach can detract from the core story, citing examples like the Menendez brothers' series.
Tom describes Ryan Murphy's work: 'He has managed to like sexualize everything under the sun... everything has to be that... hypersexualized.' He adds, 'When you're like this is the Menendez brother, dude. No, it was a gay porn.'
Lessons
- When facing a high-stakes performance or project, embrace the 'flu game' mentality: acknowledge challenges but commit to delivering your best.
- For creative projects like comedy specials, plan for multiple takes or versions to allow for flexibility in editing and to mitigate pressure on any single performance.
- If you're a public figure in therapy, consider the boundaries of your therapist's knowledge of your public work to ensure objective and effective treatment.
Notable Moments
Bobby Lee's 'Celibacy for the Special' Rule
Bobby humorously claims to be celibate to 'save up his come' for his special, a quirky and self-deprecating take on preparing for a major performance, drawing parallels to fighters saving their 'chi'. This highlights his unique comedic approach to managing pre-show anxiety.
TMZ's Sensationalized Coverage of Tom Segura's Travel Delay
Tom recounts how a simple video update about being 'stuck in the Caribbean' due to a Venezuela-related flight shutdown was picked up by TMZ and sensationalized. This illustrates how media outlets can amplify and reframe even mundane events, often to the annoyance of those involved.
Bobby Lee's Aggression as a Sign of Love
Bobby Lee admits his constant 'hostility' and insults towards Tom Segura stem from loving him 'so much' but being unable to express it directly, leading him to 'attack.' This moment offers a surprisingly vulnerable and self-aware explanation for their signature comedic dynamic.
The 'Power Gays' at IHOP
Tom Segura shares a humorous anecdote about seeing prominent gay Hollywood figures like Bryan Singer and Kevin Spacey at an IHOP in West Hollywood, coining the term 'power gays.' This offers a lighthearted, observational take on celebrity culture and specific social dynamics.
Quotes
"I don't like the idea of knowing me at all. I prefer them to not be familiar with me in any way, shape, or form."
"I love him so much, but then it's like there's a part of me that just can't give my love and so I attack."
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