Trump Blew Up His Own Economy (w/ Josh Barro & Paige Cognetti) | Bulwark Podcast
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Takeaways
- ❖The Iran war, initiated by the Trump administration, is causing significant global fuel shortages and driving up prices, with Asia already experiencing severe impacts.
- ❖The U.S. economy, despite being a net oil exporter, will face rising gasoline and product prices, potentially leading to a global recession.
- ❖The administration failed to prepare for the economic fallout, notably by not refilling the Strategic Petroleum Reserve when oil prices were low.
- ❖Trump's decision to invade Iran was an impulsive reaction to a perceived 'tactical success' in Venezuela, without understanding the different geopolitical dynamics.
- ❖The Fed faces a difficult dilemma of managing inflation from oil shocks versus potential deflationary pressures from a recession, making interest rate decisions complex.
- ❖Modern policymaking, termed 'sloppilism,' involves politicians proposing fiscally irresponsible tax carveouts and gimmicks, treating taxes as penalties rather than the cost of a civilized society.
- ❖Scranton Mayor Paige Cognetti advocates for politicians who actively fight corruption and entrenched institutions, regardless of party, to rebuild public trust.
- ❖Congressional members' stock trading, particularly in industries affected by policy decisions (e.g., defense, crypto), erodes public trust and is a key area for reform.
Insights
1Economic Cataclysm from Iran War
Josh Barro details how the Trump administration's war in Iran is causing a 'cataclysmic' global energy crisis. Fuel shortages are already severe in Asia due to proximity to the Persian Gulf, and the U.S. will soon feel the effects through increased gasoline and product prices. This could trigger a global recession as net oil-importing countries face immense economic pain and reduced ability to purchase U.S. goods.
Barro states, 'We're already seeing in Asia the really significant fuel shortages... We're going to start feeling these effects in a few weeks.' He also mentions the potential for '$200 a barrel oil' and 'setting off a global recession here.'
2Trump's Unplanned, Arrogant Foreign Policy
The administration's decision to invade Iran was impulsive and lacked strategic planning. Trump, feeling arrogant after a 'tactical success' in Venezuela, applied the same approach to Iran without considering the different geopolitical realities or preparing for consequences like oil supply disruptions. A critical failure was not refilling the Strategic Petroleum Reserve when oil prices were low, leaving the U.S. vulnerable.
Barro notes, 'They don't seem to have planned for any of this. They're making it up as they go along.' He adds, 'They didn't refill the strategic petroleum reserve... if he thought that he might launch a war in the Middle East, then he especially should have refilled it.'
3The Fed's Stagflation Dilemma
The war has placed the Federal Reserve in an impossible position. Increased government spending on the war and spiking oil prices are inflationary, pushing for higher interest rates. Conversely, the potential for a recession and weakening labor market due to the oil shock suggests a need for looser monetary policy. This creates a risk of stagflation, where the Fed might have to raise rates to combat inflation while the economy is already slowing, leading to unemployment.
Barro explains, 'The Fed is still in a position where it's not really obvious which direction they should go on interest rates.' He warns of 'stagflation' if the Fed 'is having to raise rates to fight inflation at a time when the labor market is already soft because of the oil shock.'
4Local Leaders Fighting Corruption and Entrenched Power
Scranton Mayor Paige Cognetti highlights her political success by directly challenging local Democratic party corruption and prioritizing constituent needs over party loyalty. She emphasizes the importance of 'fighting for people' and being willing to 'tell people no' who are accustomed to benefiting from the system. This approach resonates with voters who feel left behind and distrust traditional political machines.
Cognetti recounts running as an independent against the 'powerful and corrupt Democrats' and states, 'We call corruption out wherever we see it... We have built trust back in Scranton.' She adds, 'People just want to see you fight for them.'
5Congressional Stock Trading Erodes Trust
Both Josh Barro and Paige Cognetti criticize the practice of members of Congress and administration officials actively trading stocks, particularly in sectors influenced by their policy decisions. This practice, exemplified by Cognetti's opponent trading missile stocks before the Iran war, is seen as a direct betrayal of public trust and a prime example of D.C. corruption, contributing to widespread distrust in government institutions.
Cognetti states her opponent 'campaigned on banning stock trading... becomes one of the most active stock traders in Congress.' She adds, 'It's breaking trust, right? People do not trust politicians.'
Bottom Line
The 'America First' slogan, once a political asset for Trump due to its focus on domestic issues, has been completely undermined by his administration's foreign adventures and their direct negative impact on American consumers through rising costs.
This suggests a potential shift in voter priorities, where the tangible economic pain of foreign policy misadventures could outweigh the appeal of isolationist rhetoric, making 'America First' less potent if it leads to domestic hardship.
Political challengers could effectively campaign by directly linking the economic struggles of everyday Americans to the administration's foreign policy decisions, framing it as a betrayal of the 'America First' promise.
The current political climate, characterized by 'sloppilism' and a lack of fiscal responsibility, is creating an environment where the public is increasingly 'newly idiots' regarding economic realities, making them susceptible to simplistic, unsustainable policy promises.
This trend makes it harder for politicians advocating for sound fiscal policy to win elections, as voters are more drawn to immediate, 'free money' type proposals, regardless of their long-term viability.
There is a niche for political education initiatives that translate complex economic realities (like budget deficits affecting mortgage rates) into relatable, self-interested terms for the average voter, aiming to shift public demand towards more responsible governance.
Key Concepts
Sloppilism in Policymaking
This model describes a political approach where leaders propose fiscally irresponsible, 'ice cream for dinner' policies (e.g., arbitrary tax carveouts, gimmicks) without accounting for budget deficits or the broader economic impact. It treats taxes as a penalty rather than the necessary price for societal services, reflecting an 'adolescent' view of governance.
Inelastic Demand and Price Swings
This model explains that for essential goods like petroleum products, short-term demand is highly inelastic. This means even significant price increases may not immediately reduce consumption, necessitating even larger price movements to balance supply and demand, leading to 'wild swings' and extreme price points (e.g., $200 a barrel oil).
Lessons
- Advocate for policies that require members of Congress and administration officials to place their investments in blind trusts or index funds to prevent conflicts of interest and rebuild public trust.
- For political candidates, focus campaign messaging on actively fighting entrenched institutions and corruption, demonstrating a willingness to challenge both parties for the benefit of constituents.
- Educate voters on the direct economic consequences of fiscal irresponsibility (e.g., how budget deficits raise mortgage rates) to counter 'sloppilist' policy proposals and foster demand for sound governance.
Notable Moments
Discussion of Trump's 'bleet' (tweet) claiming Iran's 'new regime president' asked for a ceasefire, despite no such new president existing, highlighting the administration's reliance on fabricated information.
This exemplifies the unreliable narration and improvisational nature of the administration's foreign policy, making it impossible for the public or even Congress to understand the true state of affairs.
Josh Barro's analogy of 'ice cream for dinner' to describe 'adolescent' policymaking, where politicians propose tax carveouts and gimmicks without fiscal responsibility.
This vivid analogy effectively captures the short-sighted and unsustainable nature of many modern political proposals, which appeal to immediate gratification but ignore long-term consequences and budget realities.
Paige Cognetti's account of running as an independent against her local Democratic party machine after a corrupt mayor went to prison.
This illustrates a successful model for challenging entrenched political power and corruption at the local level, emphasizing trust-building and fighting for constituents over party loyalty, which can be a blueprint for other regions.
Quotes
"The explanation of what the war is for and what will constitute success and when we can stop just keeps changing."
"It's also outrageous because they don't seem to have planned for any of this. They're making it up as they go along. They have no they have no idea what they're doing."
"Voters care about the price of gasoline. And you can you you can project an image of strength and you can do things that move financial markets around, but if you're not actually getting the pump price down, then that's not going to serve you politically."
"A tariff is just a tax that happens to be on a very specific set of goods and it has that similar disinflationary effect. So I I I think it's true that you know of the of the many problems that we should have expected from tariffs, it was not necessarily that they were going to goose the inflation rate."
"The government should work as hard as the people it serves."
"People are waiting for things to change. The system isn't working and it hasn't been working under any of the previous administrations to be honest."
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