COCAINE SUMMERS FOR LAMAR ODOM, RYAN WILLIAMS ENGAGED AT 19 & MA$E THESE WAS YOUR RULES! | S8 EP34
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- ❖The podcast introduces a new $500 fine for lateness, which hosts Mace and Stat immediately incur.
- ❖The NBA's 65-game MVP eligibility rule is contentious, with hosts arguing it unfairly impacts players with legitimate injuries.
- ❖Nikola Jokic and SGA are at risk of not qualifying for MVP due to games missed, despite their elite performance.
- ❖Host Cam believes Jaylen Brown, not Jayson Tatum, should be the current MVP due to his high usage percentage and team leadership.
- ❖Lamar Odom openly discussed his past drug addiction, including 'great cocaine summers,' and believes it prevented him from being a Hall of Famer.
- ❖Hosts speculate if Odom's unique, 'free' playing style was linked to his drug use.
- ❖The engagement of 19-year-old Alabama wide receiver Ryan Williams to his 25-year-old girlfriend with a child is seen as a major potential distraction for his NFL draft prospects.
- ❖Concerns are raised about the financial and personal complexities of Ryan Williams' early marriage, especially regarding the child's father's access.
- ❖The high consumption of condoms at the Winter Olympics is debated, with one host suggesting they are souvenirs and another criticizing the media's focus on it.
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1NBA's 65-Game MVP Rule Sparks Controversy
The NBA's new rule requiring players to participate in at least 65 games to be eligible for MVP is heavily debated. The host and guest argue that while intended to combat load management, it unfairly penalizes players like Nikola Jokic and SGA who miss games due to legitimate injuries, potentially robbing them of deserved awards. The guest points out that historically, only Bill Walton has won MVP playing fewer than 65 games in a full season, questioning the rule's historical precedent and impact on player incentives.
Guest Tris states, 'The only player in history during a full season that won it was Bill Walton under 65 games.' Host notes, 'Joker misses two more games. He's ineligible and he's um averaging a triple double.'
2Lamar Odom's 'Cocaine Summers' and Unfulfilled Potential
Lamar Odom's candid admission that drug use, including 'great cocaine summers,' prevented him from reaching his full NBA potential and Hall of Fame status is a central topic. Guest Tris argues that a sober Odom would have been a Hall of Famer, comparing his unique skillset (fluidity, power, slashing, passing) to a blend of modern stars like Tatum, Giannis, and Jokic. The hosts also ponder whether his 'free' and uninhibited playing style was, paradoxically, influenced by his drug use.
Lamar Odom is quoted saying, 'I love drugs. You're talking to a real drug addict. Sometime I did drugs and I ain't going to front. I had some great cocaine summers.' Tris states, 'Lamar Odum Sober is absolutely a Hall of Famer... in 2026, he's a better Tatum... He's got the power of Giannis. He's got the bag and the fluidity of Tatum and he's got somewhat of the passing ability of Jokic.'
3Ryan Williams' Engagement: A Career Distraction?
The engagement of 19-year-old Alabama wide receiver Ryan Williams to his 25-year-old girlfriend, who has a child, is viewed with skepticism by the hosts. Guest Tris highlights the potential distractions of wedding planning, cohabitation, and step-parenting for a young athlete needing to focus on his draft prospects, especially given his recent performance dip attributed to 'mental issues.' The host Mace also raises concerns about the financial implications and the complexities of the child's biological father having access to their shared life.
Tris notes Williams' performance 'fell off' this year due to 'mental' issues and questions how he will manage 'wedding planning, cohabitation, all while you've got to try to get your mind right.' Mace adds, 'the child's father got to know where the child is. He got to know where the house is. He got to have access to your house.'
Quotes
"The only player in history during a full season that won it was Bill Walton under 65 games. So, I'm not really sure what the reason that they imparted this rule was."
"The best player in the league the last four years, maybe five years, is the Joker. I'm not arguing about it. Argue with your mother, argue with whoever you want to argue with. I love the Joker. He's the best player in the league."
"Lamar Odum Sober is absolutely a Hall of Famer... in 2026, he's a better Tatum. I know that's crazy. I know that's an insane take. He's got the power of Giannis. He's got the bag and the fluidity of Tatum and he's got somewhat of the passing ability of Jokic."
"I was very entertained with you on drugs. I don't know if I'm gonna be entertained if you're not on drugs. I don't know. You may not have been willing to do the [__] that you didn't do."
"When a woman is normally older, she's picking a guy that she can navigate. She's picking a guy that she can mold into the man that she want him to be."
"This is the [__] that Jayen Dy's mother is trying to keep him away from early."
"I don't think it takes away. I don't think people are worrying about their significant others who were involved because also if your partner is there supporting you, they were probably some of the people using the condoms."
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