Breaking Points
Breaking Points
February 13, 2026

Epstein Goldman Sachs Lawyer OUT, "Zohran" of North Carolina Primaries Democrat

Quick Read

Goldman Sachs' top lawyer exits due to extensive ties with Jeffrey Epstein, while a progressive North Carolina candidate challenges an incumbent, and the US intensifies its economic strangulation of Cuba.
Goldman Sachs' Chief Legal Officer, Kathy Rumler, resigned due to over 11,000 emails and close ties to Jeffrey Epstein, including managing Rothschild accounts and participating in PR strategies.
North Carolina's Nida Alam, a progressive, is challenging incumbent Valerie Foushee in a primary where APAC's influence is waning, and new progressive super PACs are emerging.
The US is actively 'strangling' Cuba's economy, leading to a humanitarian crisis, with policies mirroring those applied to Gaza, aiming for subtle regime replacement through aid control.

Summary

This episode details the forced resignation of Kathy Rumler, Goldman Sachs' Chief Legal Officer, due to her deep connections with Jeffrey Epstein, including thousands of emails and lavish gifts. It also covers the North Carolina Democratic primary where progressive Nida Alam is challenging incumbent Valerie Foushee, highlighting the shifting influence of APAC and the emergence of new progressive super PACs. The hosts further analyze the US policy towards Cuba, framing it as an economic strangulation mirroring tactics used against Gaza, and discuss the humanitarian consequences and geopolitical implications. Additionally, the episode touches on controversial political figures like James Fishbach and James Talerico, examining their campaign strategies and funding sources.
The revelations about Kathy Rumler underscore the deep entanglement of powerful elites with Jeffrey Epstein, exposing a 'class solidarity' that shielded him and his associates for years. The North Carolina primary race illustrates a significant shift in progressive politics, particularly regarding foreign policy and corporate money in elections. The US policy on Cuba highlights a concerning pattern of economic warfare with severe humanitarian impacts, revealing a consistent, bipartisan approach to regime change that prioritizes control over human well-being. These discussions provide critical insights into the hidden power structures, evolving political landscapes, and the human cost of foreign policy decisions.

Takeaways

  • Kathy Rumler, Goldman Sachs' CLLO and former Obama lawyer, resigned after emails revealed over 11,000 communications and a close personal and professional relationship with Jeffrey Epstein.
  • Epstein acted as a 'gatekeeper' for the Rothschild account and helped negotiate settlements for the Rothschild Bank with the US and Israel, with Rumler managing these operations.
  • The hosts suggest that elites exhibited 'class solidarity' in defending figures like Epstein, fearing that public anger over sexual misconduct could extend to broader accountability for their power.
  • A newly unredacted email from Epstein's files shows a political figure, identified as 2014 congressional candidate Gwendalyn Beck, expressing affection and discussing a visit to Epstein's island.
  • Emails suggest Jeffrey Epstein advised Steve Bannon on structuring a media company to avoid FARA registration, potentially influencing the creation or operation of Bannon's 'War Room'.
  • Nida Alam, a progressive candidate in North Carolina, is running against incumbent Valerie Foushee, who previously received significant APAC funding but has since criticized Israel, leading to a potential loss of APAC support.
  • Alam's campaign focuses on affordability, immigration reform (including abolishing ICE), and a national moratorium on AI data centers due to their energy and water consumption impacts on local communities.
  • The US is implementing policies that 'strangle' Cuba's economy, causing a severe humanitarian crisis, with actions mirroring the aid restrictions imposed on Gaza.
  • The hosts argue that the US uses humanitarian aid as leverage for subtle regime change in Cuba, aiming to become the 'power center' that controls life and death on the island.
  • Controversial Florida candidate James Fishbach uses provocative, meme-driven rhetoric, including allegedly anti-Semitic dog whistles, to activate young Republican voters, though his polling numbers remain low.
  • Texas candidate James Talerico frames his campaign around 'class warfare' against billionaires, but faces scrutiny for past campaign funding from a pro-gambling group linked to Miriam Adelson.

Insights

1Goldman Sachs' Chief Legal Officer Resigns Amidst Extensive Epstein Ties

Kathy Rumler, Goldman Sachs' Chief Legal Officer and a former top Obama administration lawyer, resigned after emails revealed a long-standing, intimate friendship and professional relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. Ryan Grim's investigation found over 11,000 emails between Rumler and Epstein, indicating a deep involvement that included managing the Rothschild account, negotiating settlements for the Rothschild Bank, and participating in public relations strategies to defend Epstein.

Rumler was general counsel for Obama, managed the Rothschild account, and was a 'middle attorney' between Epstein and the Rothschilds. Epstein tried to connect her with Bill Gates. She helped negotiate settlements for Rothschild Bank with the US and Israel. She was copied on emails with Steve Bannon, Epstein, and Michael Wolff strategizing PR. She bragged to Epstein about a CIA award and had 'NSA signal intelligence' calendar invites with him. She received lavish gifts and referred to him as 'Uncle Jeffrey'. Goldman Sachs stood by her for years, but the sheer volume and nature of the emails made her position untenable.

2Elite 'Class Solidarity' Protected Epstein and Associates

The hosts argue that the prolonged defense of individuals like Kathy Rumler by powerful institutions like Goldman Sachs, and the broader elite class, stemmed from a 'class solidarity' that emerged during the #MeToo era. This solidarity aimed to protect their power from public anger and accountability, fearing that scrutiny over sexual misconduct could extend to other areas like treatment of workers or national policy.

Ryan Grim states, 'People in the Upper East Side, the powerful people in the upper east side at that point were sick of me too. like they were done with it because they saw it as this mob democratic check on on their power.' He adds, 'They look at that and they're like they can see where this goes. Like, wait a minute. public anger at what we're doing. Okay, right now it's what we're doing to women, but it could evolve into what we're doing to workers, you know, what we're what we're doing to the country.'

3North Carolina Primary Reflects Shifting Political Landscape and APAC Influence

The Democratic primary in North Carolina's 4th congressional district features a rematch between progressive Nida Alam and incumbent Valerie Foushee. In 2022, Foushee won with significant backing from APAC (American Israel Public Affairs Committee). However, Foushee's subsequent mild criticisms of Israel have led to a withdrawal of APAC support, while Alam is now receiving support from a progressive super PAC, indicating a shift in external funding dynamics and voter priorities.

In 2022, APAC 'threw something like seven plus million dollars into this race' for Foushee. Foushee later offered 'very gentle criticism' of Israel and stated she 'will not accept Apac money in 2026.' Last night, a super PAC came in support of Nida Alam, dropping '$500,000 worth of ads'. Alam's campaign is grassroots, with an average contribution of '$50', and she is endorsed by a coalition of progressive groups and Senator Bernie Sanders.

4US Policy 'Strangling' Cuba, Mirroring Gaza Tactics

The United States is implementing severe economic sanctions against Cuba, leading to a humanitarian crisis characterized by widespread blackouts and shortages of essential resources like fuel. The hosts draw a direct parallel to US policy towards Gaza, where aid is restricted, arguing that these actions are designed to destabilize the existing government and create leverage for a subtle form of regime change, positioning the US as the ultimate arbiter of life and death on the island.

The US is 'strangling Cuba' and considering sending 'small quantities of fuel' for cooking and water infrastructure. Ryan Grim states, 'It's really eerie how quickly and seamlessly the US moved the Gaza policy over to Cuba.' He notes that 'children are dying of cancer at a much higher rate' in Cuba due to lack of medical supplies. Emily Jashinsky adds that the policy aims to 'make the economy scream' for regime change, a playbook that has failed for decades.

5AI Data Centers Emerge as a Local Political Issue

The rapid expansion of AI data centers is becoming a significant local political issue in North Carolina, particularly in areas like Apex. Residents are concerned about increased electricity rates, massive water consumption, and the environmental impact, leading to calls for a moratorium on their construction.

Nida Alam states, 'We actually have an AI data center that's being considered at the local level in Apex...residents have been coming out strongly against it because it's going to be built basically like right outside their neighborhoods.' She notes Duke Energy is 'increasing the rates for residents to take account for the fact that they're going to need an increased load for these AI data centers.' Alam supports Senator Sanders' national moratorium on AI data centers to ensure proper regulations.

Bottom Line

The blurring of lines between legal counsel, personal relationships, and public relations strategy among elites, as seen in the Epstein-Rumler dynamic, suggests a systemic vulnerability where professional ethics can be compromised by personal ties and 'class solidarity.'

So What?

This indicates that traditional corporate governance and legal safeguards may be insufficient to prevent powerful individuals from engaging in morally questionable activities if they are part of a protected social network.

Impact

Independent investigative journalism and robust regulatory oversight are crucial to expose these hidden networks and hold powerful figures accountable, as mainstream media often overlooks these deeper connections.

The shift in APAC's support in the North Carolina primary, moving away from an incumbent who offered 'gentle criticism' of Israel, demonstrates the organization's zero-tolerance policy and its continued, albeit adaptable, influence in US elections.

So What?

This suggests that even minor deviations from pro-Israel stances can lead to significant financial consequences for political candidates, potentially chilling free speech on foreign policy issues.

Impact

The rise of progressive super PACs and grassroots organizing, as seen with Nida Alam, presents an opportunity for candidates to build alternative funding and support structures, challenging the traditional dominance of powerful lobbies.

The US strategy of 'strangling' Cuba's economy to induce regime change, while simultaneously offering limited humanitarian aid, represents a sophisticated form of geopolitical control that leverages human suffering for political ends.

So What?

This policy risks exacerbating humanitarian crises and fueling anti-American sentiment, potentially pushing Cuba further into the orbit of rival powers like China and Russia, undermining long-term US interests.

Impact

A shift towards diplomatic engagement and lifting sanctions could foster stability, open new economic opportunities, and improve the lives of Cuban citizens, potentially reducing the influence of hostile foreign actors.

Lessons

  • Support independent media and investigative journalism that delves into complex power structures and exposes hidden connections, as mainstream outlets often provide only a 'surface view' of critical issues like the Epstein scandal.
  • Engage with local political campaigns, especially those focused on grassroots organizing and community issues like affordability and environmental impact, to counter the influence of corporate money and special interest groups.
  • Educate yourself and others on the humanitarian consequences of US foreign policy, particularly economic sanctions, and advocate for policies that prioritize human well-being and diplomatic solutions over coercive measures.

Notable Moments

Discussion of the 'class solidarity' among elites in defending figures like Epstein, fearing broader accountability.

This moment provides a critical lens through which to understand why powerful individuals and institutions might protect those accused of serious misconduct, highlighting a systemic issue beyond individual culpability.

Nida Alam's detailed explanation of how AI data centers are impacting local communities through increased energy rates and water consumption.

This highlights an emerging and under-discussed political issue, demonstrating how technological advancements can have direct, negative consequences for everyday citizens and local governance.

The hosts' direct comparison of US policy towards Cuba with its policy towards Gaza, framing both as economic strangulation for regime change.

This comparison draws attention to a consistent and concerning pattern in US foreign policy, suggesting a bipartisan approach to leveraging humanitarian crises for geopolitical control.

Quotes

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"This is why we're the B team, you know. Uh we're working on it. So, we've got more Epstein news, more more of our uh you know, associates going down today."

Griffin
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"People in the Upper East Side, the powerful people in the upper east side at that point were sick of me too. like they were done with it because they saw it as this mob democratic check on on their power."

Ryan Grim
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"It's really eerie how quickly and seamlessly the US moved the Gaza policy over to Cuba."

Ryan Grim
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"Make the economy scream. Um and then you'll be able to do your regime change. Has not worked in Cuba for decades."

Emily Jashinsky
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"ICE as an agency was created in the Bush era in 2003 in a post 911 world to target my community, the Muslim community."

Nida Alam
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"We already have class warfare in this country. It's the billionaires waging war against the rest of us. And right now the billionaires are winning."

James Talerico
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"If the 911 hijackers gave you a heads up and you boarded the plane to cover the 911 hijacking, then yes, you and anyone else involved should be publicly executed."

James Fishbach

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