Gabbie Hanna Calls Ethan and Trisha Paytas Out - H3 After Dark #13
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Takeaways
- ❖The feud between Gabbie Hanna and Trisha Paytas has spanned over seven years, involving accusations of herpes, joke stealing, and psychological abuse.
- ❖Shane Dawson initiated the herpes rumor about Trisha Paytas, which Gabbie Hanna later disclosed to Trisha's then-boyfriend, Jason Nash, in the presence of David Dobrik.
- ❖Trisha Paytas consistently denies having any prior friendship or extensive interaction with Gabbie Hanna, despite Gabbie presenting text messages and social media posts as evidence.
- ❖Gabbie Hanna has been publicly labeled a 'rape apologist' due to her perceived siding with Jesse Smiles's alleged rapist, an accusation she vehemently denies.
- ❖Gabbie Hanna attributes her public mental health breakdown in 2020 to the psychological abuse and slander from Trisha Paytas, Jesse Smiles, and various drama channels, including Ethan Klein.
- ❖Trisha Paytas demonstrates an 'untouchable' quality in the influencer world, often escaping severe consequences for controversial actions and statements.
- ❖Gabbie Hanna, now married and living a 'Christian life' in Pennsylvania, continues to re-ignite the drama through new podcasts and TikToks, seeking apologies and validation.
- ❖The hosts suggest Gabbie's inability to move on from the feud may stem from deeper, unresolved personal issues, particularly a dysfunctional relationship with her mother.
- ❖The H3 hosts ultimately decided against inviting Gabbie Hanna onto their show, citing concerns about potentially re-traumatizing Jesse Smiles and the likelihood of the conversation being unproductive.
Insights
1The Herpes Rumor and its Fallout
The feud ignited when Shane Dawson allegedly told Gabbie Hanna that Trisha Paytas had herpes. Years later, when Trisha began dating Jason Nash, Gabbie informed Jason about the rumor, with David Dobrik present. This disclosure became a central point of contention, with Trisha accusing Gabbie of spreading lies about her sexual health.
Gabbie's account of Shane Dawson's disclosure (), Gabby telling Jason Nash with David Dobrik present (), Trisha's angry response to the rumor ().
2Trisha Paytas's 'Untouchable' Online Persona
The hosts observe that Trisha Paytas possesses a unique ability to navigate numerous controversies and public scandals without suffering significant long-term career damage. She is described as 'Teflon' and 'untouchable,' often denying past actions or statements, and her dedicated fanbase often defends her against detractors.
Hosts discussing Trisha's ability to bounce back from controversy (), her fans bothering detractors (), and her denial of past events ().
3Gabbie Hanna's Mental Health Struggles and Blame
Gabbie Hanna experienced a public mental health breakdown in 2020, which she attributes to the 'psychological abuse' and 'slander' from Trisha Paytas, Jesse Smiles, Ethan Klein, and various drama channels. She continues to seek apologies and validation, framing her ongoing struggle as part of her 'testimony' in her new Christian life.
Gabbie's 'psychotic break' in 2020 (), her blaming Ethan Klein (), her emotional outbursts about being a 'victim of psychological abuse' (), and her framing the drama as her 'testimony' ().
4The Gaslighting Dynamic in the 'Lost Podcast'
A re-released podcast episode featuring Gabbie and Trisha highlights a severe gaslighting dynamic. Gabbie attempts to confront Trisha with evidence of their past friendship and Trisha's negative comments, but Trisha repeatedly denies any memory of these interactions, making Gabbie feel 'insane' and questioning her own reality.
Gabbie's intro to the 'lost podcast' (), Trisha's immediate dismissiveness (), Trisha denying ever talking to Gabbie despite text messages and tweets (), and Trisha calling Gabbie a 'character online' ().
5The Jesse Smiles 'Rape Apologist' Controversy
Gabbie Hanna's falling out with former best friend Jesse Smiles stemmed from accusations that Gabbie sided with Jesse's alleged rapist, who later pleaded guilty to felony assault. This led to Gabbie being widely labeled a 'rape apologist,' a reputation she struggles to shed and blames for ongoing harassment and career setbacks.
Jesse's boyfriend pleading guilty to felony assault (), Gabbie being accused of siding with him (), the 'rape apologist' label (), and Jesse's distress over Gabbie hearing out her assailant ().
Lessons
- Avoid engaging in online feuds, especially if you are prone to emotional responses, as they can have long-lasting negative impacts on mental health and public perception.
- Document online interactions and communications, as evidence can be crucial when dealing with individuals who deny past events or engage in gaslighting.
- Prioritize mental health and seek professional support when facing intense public scrutiny or manipulative behavior, rather than seeking validation from those causing distress.
- Exercise caution when sharing personal information, even with close friends, as it can be weaponized in future conflicts, especially within the public sphere.
Quotes
"Trish is advanced and not only is she advanced YouTuber content brain rot type person, she actually has a very unique buff that I've never seen in the game before. It seems like she, for what she puts out and what she gets back, she is one of the most untouchable people I've seen on YouTube."
"You are a monster. You are the scariest, scariest monster on the internet because you do not believe that you do anything wrong in your friendships."
"I want every single one of these people to go to heaven, and this is not the path. Gossip is a sin. Slander is a sin."
"If you think we had this friendship, okay, I don't know what else."
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