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Bulwark Takes
March 17, 2026

Sen. Kennedy Tried to Dunk… And Got Schooled Instead (w/ David Bier)

Quick Read

David Bier, Director of Immigration Studies at the Cato Institute, details how Senator John Kennedy's attempt to discredit him with out-of-context social media posts backfired, while highlighting the significant economic benefits of immigration and the extreme nature of current anti-immigrant policies.
Immigrants reduce US government deficits by trillions, contributing more in taxes and using fewer benefits than native-born citizens.
Extreme anti-immigrant policies, like country-of-origin bans and mass deportation rhetoric, are actively harming the US economy and civil liberties.
ICE's use of arrest quotas leads to racial profiling, detaining thousands of Americans based on appearance, not criminal activity.

Summary

David Bier, an immigration expert from the Cato Institute, appeared before the US Senate Budget Committee to present findings that immigration has reduced government deficits by $14.5 trillion over 30 years. During his testimony, Senator John Kennedy attempted to discredit Bier by reading out-of-context social media posts, including one about 'ethnic cleansing' which Bier clarified referred to a Department of Homeland Security tweet advocating 100 million deportations. Bier explains how immigrants, on average, are less costly to government budgets, pay more in taxes, and work at higher rates than US-born citizens, largely due to barriers to accessing federal benefits like Medicare and Social Security. The discussion extends to the current administration's extreme anti-immigrant policies, such as a country-of-origin ban affecting spouses and minor children of US citizens, and ICE's use of arrest quotas leading to racial profiling and harassment of Americans. The host and Bier also touch on the economic harm these policies inflict, citing the impact on Louisiana's crawfish industry, and conclude with a libertarian argument for privatizing airport security (TSA).
This episode exposes the disconnect between data-driven analysis on immigration's economic impact and the political rhetoric often employed in policy debates. It highlights how extreme anti-immigrant policies, often obscured from public view, have tangible negative consequences on the economy, civil liberties, and even local industries. Understanding these dynamics is crucial for informed public discourse and policy-making, demonstrating that immigration is a net economic benefit, not a drain, and that current enforcement tactics have broad societal costs.

Takeaways

  • Immigrants have reduced US government deficits by $14.5 trillion over the last 30 years, contributing more in taxes and utilizing fewer government benefits than US-born citizens.
  • Senator John Kennedy's attempt to discredit immigration expert David Bier during a Senate hearing by quoting out-of-context social media posts failed, as Bier provided immediate context for each statement.
  • Current anti-immigrant policies include a country-of-origin ban that prevents spouses and minor children of US citizens from receiving immigrant visas from over 90 nations.
  • The '100 million deportations' rhetoric, once tweeted by DHS, would constitute 'ethnic cleansing' by targeting tens of millions of US citizens and non-citizens.
  • ICE agents operate under arrest quotas, leading to racial profiling and the harassment and detention of thousands of Americans who have committed no crime.
  • The lack of immigrant labor due to restrictive policies is directly harming specific US industries, such as Louisiana's crawfish processing plants.
  • Privatizing airport security (TSA) would lead to a more effective and less politically vulnerable system, as government agencies lack the same incentives for efficiency and security as private entities.

Insights

1Immigration Significantly Reduces Government Deficits

A comprehensive analysis by the Cato Institute found that immigration has reduced government deficits by $14.5 trillion over the past 30 years. Immigrants, on average, arrive ready to work, face unique barriers to accessing federal benefits (especially Medicare and Social Security), and work at a 12 percentage point higher rate than US-born citizens, leading them to pay more in taxes per capita.

David Bier's testimony to the US Senate Budget Committee, based on Cato Institute research, cited a $14.5 trillion reduction in government deficits over 30 years due to immigration. He explained that immigrants are categorically barred from most federal benefits if undocumented, and even legal immigrants use significantly less Medicare and Social Security.

2Political Attacks on Immigration Experts Lack Substance

During a Senate hearing, Senator John Kennedy attempted to discredit David Bier by quoting his social media posts out of context, including a statement about 'ethnic cleansing.' Bier effectively countered by providing the full context, revealing the Senator's lack of preparation and unwillingness to engage with the actual policy merits.

Senator Kennedy read Bier's post about 'ethnic cleansing' (). Bier clarified it was in response to a Department of Homeland Security tweet advocating '100 million deportations' of people from the 'third world,' which would involve deporting tens of millions of US citizens and Americans (). Kennedy did not respond to this clarification.

3Extreme Anti-Immigrant Policies Harm Legal Immigration and US Citizens

The current administration has implemented policies that severely restrict legal immigration, including a country-of-origin ban affecting spouses and minor children of US citizens from over 90 countries. These policies are not widely publicized or supported by the general public but are driven by anti-immigrant ideologues within the administration.

Bier detailed a policy banning half of all spouses and minor children of US citizens from 90+ countries from receiving immigrant visas abroad, regardless of their relationship or vetting process (). He also mentioned the cancellation of Temporary Protected Status (TPS) and humanitarian parole for people who entered legally under the Biden administration ().

4ICE Arrest Quotas Lead to Racial Profiling and Civil Liberties Violations

An Oregon court case revealed that ICE agents operate under arrest quotas, contradicting official testimony. This practice incentivizes agents to make arrests based on appearance rather than specific intelligence, leading to widespread racial profiling and the harassment and detention of thousands of Americans.

An ICE agent testified under oath about arrest quotas, directly contradicting Secretary Gnome's previous testimony (). Bier cited a Fox News report where ICE agents interrogated over 300 people to make 30 arrests in one day, demonstrating a low hit rate and high incidence of harassment based on profiling ().

Bottom Line

Anti-immigrant policies are directly causing economic harm to specific, culturally significant local industries within the US, such as Louisiana's crawfish sector.

So What?

This demonstrates that immigration policy is not an abstract political issue but has immediate, tangible negative impacts on local economies, supply chains, and consumer access to goods, even affecting cultural staples.

Impact

Advocates for immigration reform can leverage these specific local economic impacts to build broader, bipartisan support by framing the issue as one of economic stability and cultural preservation, rather than solely humanitarian or political.

Lessons

  • Challenge political rhetoric on immigration by referencing data on its positive fiscal impact ($14.5 trillion deficit reduction).
  • Investigate specific anti-immigrant policies, such as country-of-origin bans for family reunification, to understand their real-world consequences beyond general border security discussions.
  • Demand greater transparency and oversight regarding law enforcement practices, particularly concerning ICE's use of arrest quotas and potential racial profiling, to protect civil liberties.

Notable Moments

Senator John Kennedy's attempt to discredit David Bier during a Senate hearing by quoting out-of-context social media posts.

This moment exemplifies the often-theatrical and fact-averse nature of political discourse, where personal attacks are prioritized over substantive policy debate, even when faced with expert testimony and data.

Quotes

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"immigrants when they come here, we we basically get a free worker... They're contributing to the economy, not sucking in resources."

David Bier
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"100 million deportation would be ethnic cleansing, you would be hurting one-third of the country."

David Bier
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"There's not a distinction in their mind between the legal non-citizens and the illegal non-citizens. It's an invasion in their in their view."

David Bier
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"We require migrants and immigrants to work in crawfish processing plants. We're at the height of crawfish season. My rouses down the street does not have its usual supply of crawfish hand pies because we do not have people doing the, you know, pulling off the tails, things like this."

Tim Miller

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