Native American Tribe LASHES OUT At Billie Eilish And Hollywood For Crying 'Stolen Land' At Grammys!
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Takeaways
- ❖Billie Eilish's 'stolen land' and 'F ICE' comments at the Grammys drew significant backlash and accusations of hypocrisy.
- ❖The Tongva tribe, whose ancestral land Billie Eilish's Los Angeles mansion occupies, stated she has not contacted them directly regarding her property.
- ❖Critics argue that advocating for 'open borders' and simultaneously claiming 'stolen land' presents a logical contradiction regarding land ownership.
- ❖Celebrities are accused of virtue signaling to their liberal fan base, making statements they don't genuinely believe or apply to their own lives.
- ❖The hosts highlight the irony of celebrities having walls and security for their private property while opposing national borders.
Insights
1Billie Eilish's 'Stolen Land' Grammys Statement Draws Immediate Backlash
At the Grammy Awards, Billie Eilish stated, 'Nobody is illegal because we're on stolen land' and also said 'F ICE.' This statement quickly became a focal point for critics who accused her of hypocrisy and virtue signaling.
Billie Eilish's speech at the Grammys (, , )
2Tongva Tribe Calls for Explicit Recognition and Direct Contact
The Gabrielino Tongva tribe, indigenous to the Los Angeles basin, confirmed that Billie Eilish's multi-million dollar mansion is situated on their ancestral land. While appreciating the sentiment of her statement, they noted she has not contacted them directly and requested explicit reference to their tribe in future discussions to ensure public understanding of their territory.
The Tongva tribe spokesperson told the Daily Mail, 'is not contacted our tribe directly regarding her property. We do value the instance when public figures provide visibility to the true story of this country... It is our hope that in future discussions, the tribe can explicitly be referenced to ensure the public understands that the greater Los Angeles basin remains Gabrielino Tongva territory.' (, , )
3Logical Inconsistency Argument: 'Stolen Land' vs. 'Open Borders'
Commentators, including the podcast hosts, argue that there is a fundamental logical contradiction in simultaneously advocating for 'open borders' and claiming that land is 'stolen.' They contend that if land is 'stolen,' it implies a concept of ownership, which is negated by the idea of open borders where land is treated as communal property without defined boundaries or ownership.
The hosts state, 'you quite literally cannot have open borders while at the same time claiming that land is stolen... Land cannot be stolen if it's community property. Open borders implies that land is community property, that there is no such thing as ownership of land.' (, )
4Celebrity Hypocrisy on Borders and Property Walls
Critics highlight the perceived hypocrisy of celebrities like Billie Eilish who advocate against national borders and 'walls' while maintaining high security, including walls, around their own multi-million dollar private residences. This is framed as a disconnect between their public political statements and their personal actions.
The hosts observe Eilish's mansion 'has walls, right? You know those things that leftists claim they're against, right? Barriers... Why does her mansion have barriers and walls? Well, maybe because she doesn't just want anybody being able to come up in her home, right? But for whatever reason, she believes that anybody should just be able to come up in America.' ()
Lessons
- Critically evaluate celebrity political statements by examining potential inconsistencies between their public advocacy and personal circumstances.
- When discussing historical land claims, ensure specific indigenous tribes are explicitly referenced and, if possible, directly engaged, rather than making broad, generalized statements.
- Consider the logical implications of political ideologies; for example, how concepts like 'stolen land' (implying ownership) might conflict with 'open borders' (implying communal land).
Quotes
"Her home is situated on our ancestral land. Isn't contacted our tribe directly regarding her property."
"Please do not get up here and use the stage as a platform for politics. You're in no position to lecture the public about anything. You know nothing about the real world."
"Any white person who does a public stolen land acknowledgement should immediately give his or her land to Native Americans, otherwise they don't mean it."
"A gentle reminder that Billy Isish, worth $50 million, has given zero to the original inhabitants of this stolen land."
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