The Joe Budden Podcast Episode 900 | A Whole Tray Of Ice
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Takeaways
- ❖The hosts celebrated their 900th episode, reflecting on the podcast's journey and future plans, including a big celebration at 1000 episodes.
- ❖Grammy discussions included praise for Kendrick Lamar and Bad Bunny's wins, but disappointment over Clips not winning Rap Album of the Year.
- ❖Lauren Hill's Grammy performance was lauded for its quality, winning over previous critics among the hosts despite her reputation for changing song tempos live.
- ❖Justin Bieber's Grammy performance was interpreted by some hosts as a 'cry for help' due to its somber tone and minimal attire.
- ❖Pharrell Williams' acceptance speech for the Global Impact Award was criticized for being generic and lacking meaningful social commentary.
- ❖Jelly Roll's red carpet comments, where he downplayed his political awareness but promised future statements, were met with skepticism.
- ❖The Grammys' broadcast rights shifted to Disney/ABC/Hulu starting in 2027, indicating a move towards streaming platforms for major awards shows.
- ❖The dispute between battle rapper T-Rex and URL's Beasley over payment after T-Rex suffered a seizure during a battle highlighted contractual and moral ambiguities in the industry.
- ❖The Verzuz battle between Hit-Boy and Mike Will Made-It was widely seen as a win for Mike Will, with Hit-Boy criticized for poor song selection and strategy.
- ❖Lil Wayne (5 Grammys, 55 nominations) and Nicki Minaj (0 Grammys, 12 nominations) were cited as examples of artists significantly underappreciated by the Recording Academy.
- ❖Will.i.am predicted that Grammys red carpets would feature 'level five artistry' (agents and robots) by 2030, with autonomous cars already a reality.
- ❖Reggie Miller's comparison of WNBA star Caitlin Clark to NBA player Payton Pritchard was deemed a 'broadcasting error' by the hosts, who felt it was an undersell.
- ❖A heated debate arose about traditional marriage practices, particularly wives taking husbands' last names and location sharing, with some hosts advocating for more egalitarian partnerships.
- ❖The NFL Network and Red Zone are now under ESPN's control, with the NFL taking a minority stake in ESPN, marking a significant media partnership.
- ❖The hosts discussed the controversy around Skills winning a spoken word Grammy, with some in the poetry community feeling rappers are co-opting the category.
Insights
1Grammy Award Discrepancies and Artist Recognition
The hosts debated various Grammy outcomes, particularly the Rap Album of the Year, where Clips was favored by some over Kendrick Lamar, despite acknowledging both albums' quality. They also highlighted the perceived underappreciation of artists like Lil Wayne (5 Grammys from 55 nominations) and Nicki Minaj (0 Grammys from 12 nominations) by the Recording Academy.
I really did not want Kendrick to get rap album of the year. I wanted Clips to get rap album of the year. I just thought they really deserved it far more. (), Drake only got five Grammys. It's kind of surprising to me. (), Nikki has zero. (), Nikki not having Grammys is crazy. She deserves. ()
2Perceived Authenticity vs. Public Persona
Several artists were scrutinized for their public appearances and statements. Pharrell's Global Impact Award speech was criticized for being generic, while Justin Bieber's performance was seen as a 'cry for help.' Jelly Roll's red carpet interview, where he claimed political ignorance but promised future statements, was met with skepticism.
Go to work. Like, shut the [__] up. For real. I was disappointed by a lot of sickening a lot of artists not saying [__] (), My thing with Justin Bieber recently or for the better part of a few years now is every time you see him, it looked like it's a cry for help. (), Which one is it, my [__] You don't know what's going on in the political world or you got a lot to say. ()
3Evolving Dynamics in Music and Media Industries
The episode covered significant shifts in media, from the Grammys' move to Disney/ABC/Hulu for future broadcasts to the NFL Network's integration with ESPN. Discussions on Verzuz battles and the spoken word Grammy category also highlighted changes in how music and artists are presented and recognized.
starting in 2027, they've s uh the Recording Academy... has signed a a new long-term 10-year rights deal with the Walt Disney Company. ABC will take over the Grammys live streaming on Hulu and Disney Plus through at least 2036. (), Disney and the NFL have finalized a major media reshuffleling that brings the NFL network under ESPN's control... while the NFL takes a minority ownership stake in ESPN itself. (), I've seen people posting on social media very upset the skills got the the spoken word. They basically were like, 'We've been doing this as a craft for years.' And now rappers who don't make it make a spoken word album as a kind of back door way to get a Grammy ()
4Business vs. Friendship in Battle Rap
The ongoing dispute between T-Rex and URL's Beasley regarding payment after T-Rex suffered a seizure during a battle sparked a debate about contractual obligations versus personal relationships in business.
He show up at times. Look, I sue y'all because of that. I'm still waiting on some [__] on a um a grievance appreciation check. (), Is it totally off base for Beasley to think we have we we got to do this battle because I still got to pay you. You didn't finish the battle. I I have your money and you didn't finish the battle. I want to give it to you. So, finish the battle. ()
5Reimagining Traditional Relationship Norms
A segment on last names in marriage and location sharing ignited a passionate debate about patriarchy and equality in modern relationships.
I think people also don't realize that much of the world does not change their name. We also have to think about the history of why people changed their names because you had dominion over me, the children, the house. Like we were all part of your property essentially. (), I don't want a matriarchal society either. I in the same way like if I want to get rid of white supremacy, I don't want black supremacy, right? I want a society where we can all be equal and where we can all reimagine our relationships in a way where one doesn't have to dominate the other. ()
Quotes
"I'm not well in the head. So, bro, the way that my brain operates, the way that I observe, you may hear some things that no one else in the world thinks but me."
"I'm the only one in the world that's enjoying the pre-show commercials like this."
"I don't think it was his best outing. It was a little when he was standing next to Bieber, Bieber looked like he was ready to swing."
"My thing with Justin Bieber recently or for the better part of a few years now is every time you see him, it looked like it's a cry for help."
"I don't want a matriarchal society either. I in the same way like if I want to get rid of white supremacy, I don't want black supremacy, right? I want a society where we can all be equal and where we can all reimagine our relationships in a way where one doesn't have to dominate the other."
"You can't look her in her face and say Payton."
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