Trump Looks Unwell on the World Stage (w/ Mike Murphy) | The Bulwark Podcast
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Takeaways
- ❖Trump's international 'Board of Peace' is characterized as a collection of countries with poor human rights records, designed to flatter his ego.
- ❖Foreign leaders are described as being in disbelief and alarm over Trump's behavior, viewing him as an 'egomaniac child' leading the superpower.
- ❖The Atlantic alliance is suffering 'permanent damage' from Trump's actions, forcing European nations to consider closer ties with China or Russia and developing nuclear capabilities.
- ❖Trump's 'economy' franchise is perceived as lost, shifting his focus to foreign policy to 'wag the dog' and distract from domestic issues.
- ❖Republican politicians are labeled the 'no better caucus' for their failure to defend the Constitution against Trump, driven by primary threats and self-preservation.
- ❖Business leaders, like Ken Griffin, express relief over reduced regulation under Trump, but critics argue this 'short-termism' ignores long-term geopolitical and democratic costs.
- ❖Trump's economic policies are described as 'stupid and crazy,' with tendencies towards 'socialism' and government control through tariffs and asset grabbing.
- ❖The US auto industry faces significant long-term threats from Chinese EV competition, exacerbated by Trump's policies that prioritize short-term sales over global competitiveness.
- ❖Federal actions by ICE in Minnesota are condemned as 'Gestapo' tactics, involving lies and harassment of American citizens, prompting calls for state and local resistance.
- ❖Gavin Newsom's 'Trump slapper' political strategy is effective for base Democratic voters but needs to evolve into a 'forward ideas guy' with a vision for the future.
- ❖A proposed California wealth tax is deemed 'horrible policy' due to its potential to drive billionaires and jobs out of the state, negatively impacting income tax revenue.
- ❖Kash Patel's conduct as a top FBI official, demanding jet skis and helicopter tours for international meetings, exemplifies the 'worst staff people' in government history.
Insights
1Trump's 'Board of Peace' and Global Alarm
Trump's initiative to form a 'Board of Peace' is viewed as a 'rogues gallery' comprising countries with significant human rights violations, primarily within the Russian sphere of influence. This move is seen as a self-serving attempt to flatter his ego rather than a genuine diplomatic effort. International leaders are described as reacting with profound disbelief and alarm, perceiving the US superpower, which they rely on as the 'metronome beat of Western democracy,' as being led by a 'crackpot egomaniac child.'
The guest describes the 'Board of Peace' as a 'rogues gallery' () and recounts foreign leaders' reaction as 'What the fuck?' () due to the US being run by a 'crackpot egoomaniac child' ().
2Permanent Damage to Alliances and Geopolitical Repercussions
Trump's actions are causing 'permanent damage' to global alliances, particularly the Atlantic alliance. This forces European nations, like Germany, to consider aligning with China or Russia and quietly developing their own atomic bomb capabilities as an insurance policy. The US is seen as 'the orchestra conductor,' and its erratic behavior 'screws up the whole damn thing' for allies, benefiting 'bad guys.'
Murphy states there will be 'permanent damage' () and that the US is the 'orchestra conductor' whose erratic behavior 'screws up the whole damn thing' (). He mentions Germany considering closer ties with China/Russia or developing an atomic bomb ().
3Loss of Trump's Economic 'Franchise' and Shift to Foreign Policy
Analysis of recent polls indicates that Trump has 'snapped back to his original coalition,' losing the economic 'franchise' that previously propped him up among voters concerned about the economy. This loss of perceived economic competence is predicted to push Trump towards more foreign policy initiatives to 'wag the dog' and divert attention from domestic economic concerns like grocery bills.
Murphy states Trump has 'lost that franchise now' () and will 'try more foreign policy stuff to wag the dog' () because otherwise, the discussion is about 'grocery bill looks like every week' ().
4Republican Complicity: The 'No Better Caucus'
Many Republican politicians, including those who previously advocated for American strength and democracy, are criticized for their 'gutless' alignment with Trump. This 'no better caucus' is driven by self-preservation, fearing primary challenges. They are compared to the Vichy Republican party, privately expressing patriotism but waiting for external forces to 'get those Germans out of Paris.'
Murphy refers to the 'no better caucus' () and criticizes figures like Marco Rubio for abandoning past principles (). He describes them as 'Vichy Republican party' () waiting for 'the Americans come' ().
5Business Leaders' 'Short-Termism' vs. Long-Term Costs
Some prominent business leaders, exemplified by Ken Griffin of Citadel, express significant relief over reduced government regulation under Trump, allowing them to 'focus on building [their] business.' However, critics argue this perspective embodies 'short-termism,' prioritizing immediate financial gains and 'minting money' over the 'catastrophic cost' to democracy, alliances, and long-term economic stability, such as the national debt or the AI bubble.
Ken Griffin's quote about 'constant friction at Citadel with the government' ending on election day () and the 'giant sigh of relief' (). Murphy counters that this is 'short-termism' () ignoring 'catastrophic cost' () like 'democracy' () and 'national debt' ().
6Trump's 'Socialist' Economic Tendencies and Impact on Auto Industry
Despite conservative rhetoric, Trump's economic policies are characterized as having 'socialist' tendencies, akin to a 'lefty UK Labor Party guy in the 70s,' due to his embrace of tariffs, deficit spending, government control, and 'grabbing assets.' This approach, particularly in the auto industry, involves 'giving them steroids' by removing mileage standards while 'sawing their arm off' with tariffs, ultimately hindering the US's ability to compete globally in the crucial EV market against heavily subsidized Chinese manufacturers.
Murphy calls Trump 'Juan Peron' with 'fascist tendencies but he's kind of a socialist at heart economically' () and 'a lefty UK Labor Party guy in the 70s' (). He details how Trump's policies 'giving them steroids' while 'sawing their arm off' () in the auto industry.
7ICE Actions as 'Gestapo' Tactics and the Need for State Resistance
Recent actions by federal ICE agents in Minneapolis, including storming homes and detaining American citizens under false pretenses, are denounced as 'Gestapo' tactics. The government's justifications are exposed as 'lie after lie.' This overreach prompts calls for states and local authorities to 'step up' and use their power to resist, even to the point of local police handcuffing federal agents who violate citizens' rights.
Murphy states ICE is 'scooping up American citizens like the Gustapo' (). He advocates for 'maxing out municipal and state of Minnesota power to stop this' (). The host details the story of an elderly Hmong man frog-marched in underwear, and the government's subsequent lies ().
8Gavin Newsom's 'Trump Slapper' Strategy and Future Challenges
California Governor Gavin Newsom's strategy of aggressively 'trolling Trump' and acting as the 'number one Trump slapper' has been effective in the 'pre-preseason' for base Democratic voters. However, this performative approach is predicted to become 'very old very fast' as other politicians adopt it. Newsom needs to pivot from being just an anti-Trump figure to a 'forward ideas guy' with a clear vision for the middle class and a strategy to address California's own 'crazy leftwing stuff' to be viable for future national leadership.
Murphy describes Newsom as the 'number one Trump slapper among base Democrat voters' () but warns it will 'get very old very fast' (). He advises Newsom to be the 'forward ideas guy' () and address 'crazy leftwing stuff' ().
Bottom Line
China's EV strategy is not primarily profit-driven but a political move to de-industrialize competitors. By exporting cheap, subsidized cars and losing money per vehicle, China aims to take over foreign markets and undermine the industrial base of other nations, leveraging industrial power for geopolitical advantage.
This reveals that competition in critical sectors like EVs is not just about market share or technological superiority, but a strategic geopolitical battle. Nations must recognize this and potentially adopt protectionist or subsidy measures, despite traditional free-market principles, to safeguard their industrial capacity and national security.
Western nations could form a coordinated alliance (e.g., US, Canada, Mexico, Europe, Australia) to collectively implement smart nationalist policies. This would involve teaming up to keep Chinese vehicles out, subsidize domestic production, and integrate supply chains across allied countries to build a competitive, resilient industrial base against China's state-backed strategy.
Key Concepts
Short-Termism
The tendency for individuals and organizations to prioritize immediate benefits and profits over long-term strategic goals, sustainability, and broader societal or geopolitical consequences. This model is applied to both business leaders supporting Trump for deregulation and politicians avoiding confrontation for re-election.
Performance Reality Show President
A political leader who governs primarily through performative acts, seeking headlines and ego gratification, treating policy and international relations as transactional events akin to a reality television show, rather than through consistent strategy or principle.
Lessons
- Recognize and challenge 'short-termism' in political and business decisions, advocating for policies and leadership that prioritize long-term national and global stability over immediate gains.
- Support state and local authorities in resisting federal overreach, particularly when federal agencies like ICE engage in actions that violate civil liberties or disseminate misinformation.
- Demand that political leaders, especially those aspiring to national roles, move beyond performative opposition and articulate clear, forward-looking visions and concrete policy solutions for critical domestic and international challenges.
Notable Moments
The discussion of Kash Patel's behavior as a top FBI official, demanding jet skis, helicopter tours, and special meal/workout/entertainment arrangements for a Five Eyes intelligence conference in the UK, rather than engaging in office meetings.
This anecdote highlights the perceived juvenile and self-serving nature of some Trump appointees, illustrating how critical government functions can be undermined by individuals prioritizing personal indulgence and spectacle over serious diplomatic and intelligence work, leading to international embarrassment and inefficiency.
Quotes
"The superpower that they rely on, the metronome beat of Western democracy run by a crackpot egoomaniac child."
"We'll be cleaning up Trump horseshit all over geopolitics, the economy, everywhere else."
"He's lost that franchise now, the thing that was propping him up. So that's why I think he's he's going to try more foreign policy stuff to wag the dog."
"It's a very short termism thing to Trump has snapped the leash off and let the dogs run and we like running. But the this the categorical cost of Trump that, you know, little stuff like democracy, uh, is like, well, that's, you know, that's not my quarterly earnings. I'll get to that later."
"In his heart, Trump is a a a lefty UK Labor Party guy in the 70s. I'm going to nationalize it. I'm going to tariff it and I'm going to control everything. He he is a government control guy."
"He is offering us the stupidest imaginable version of right-wing nationalism."
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