Julian Dorey Podcast
Julian Dorey Podcast
February 28, 2026

"Epstein Link!" - Julian UNLOADS on Bill Gates, Maxwell Sister EVIDENCE & Rockefeller | 390

Quick Read

The host uncovers deep, interconnected networks involving the Maxwell and Rockefeller families, Bill Gates, and intelligence agencies, all tied to the Epstein scandal, suggesting a 'supra-government' operates above elected officials.
Christine Maxwell (Ghislaine's sister) founded Chiliad, a company that provided data mining software to the FBI, CIA, and NSA for counter-terrorism efforts post-9/11.
David Rockefeller, founder of the Trilateral Commission, openly admitted in his autobiography to working towards a 'more integrated global political and economic structure' (a 'one world' system).
Les Wexner, Epstein's former associate, claimed in his deposition to have been 'conned' by Epstein, despite entrusting him with vast wealth and power of attorney.

Summary

Julian Dorey delves into newly revealed information from the Epstein files, connecting high-profile figures like Bill Gates, Les Wexner, and the Rockefeller family to a 'supra-government' structure. He highlights Christine Maxwell's company, Chiliad, which provided data mining software to the FBI, CIA, and NSA post-9/11, and David Rockefeller's explicit admission of working towards a 'one world' political and economic structure. The episode scrutinizes Les Wexner's deposition, where he claims to have been 'conned' by Epstein, and discusses Bill Gates's admissions of affairs linked to Epstein. Dorey expresses frustration over the lack of public outrage and accountability for child trafficking, contrasting it with other protests, and suggests major news events like potential conflicts or UFO disclosures are distractions from the Epstein case.
This episode exposes alleged deep-seated connections between elite figures, intelligence agencies, and the Epstein network, suggesting a systemic cover-up and a 'supra-government' operating beyond public scrutiny. Understanding these alleged links is critical for comprehending the true scope of power dynamics, the potential for blackmail, and the challenges in achieving justice in high-profile cases involving child trafficking and intelligence peddling.

Takeaways

  • Christine Maxwell, Ghislaine Maxwell's sister, founded Chiliad, a software company providing data mining technology to the FBI's counter-terrorism data warehouse, CIA, and NSA after 9/11.
  • David Rockefeller, founder of the Trilateral Commission, explicitly stated in his autobiography that he is 'proud' to be characterized as an 'internationalist' conspiring to build a 'one world' political and economic structure.
  • Jeffrey Epstein himself discussed his membership in the Trilateral Commission, indicating his role within this elite network.
  • Les Wexner, the billionaire founder of The Limited, claimed he was 'conned' by Jeffrey Epstein, despite giving him power of attorney and a Manhattan townhouse for a nominal fee.
  • Bill Gates admitted to two affairs, one with a Russian bridge player Epstein allegedly introduced him to, and Epstein reportedly blackmailed Gates over these relationships.
  • Epstein maintained at least six secret storage units across the US, containing 'sex slave manuals,' address books, and pornographic materials, which the FBI reportedly never searched despite knowing of their existence.
  • The host suggests that major news events, such as UFO disclosures or potential conflicts in Iran/Mexico, serve as distractions to divert public attention from the Epstein revelations.

Insights

1Maxwell Sister's Company Provided Data to FBI, CIA, NSA

Christine Maxwell, sister of Ghislaine Maxwell, co-founded Chiliad, a software company specializing in 'massively scalable, intelligent mining of structured and unstructured data through the use of natural language search technologies.' This firm's software was used by the FBI's counter-terrorism data warehouse post-9/11, enabling searches across agencies like the CIA and NSA. Christine Maxwell served as a board director of Chiliad as of August 2019.

Wikipedia entry for Christine Maxwell; Business Wire article (March 2008) titled 'Chiliad… solved the 9/11 connecting the dots problem…'; host's confirmation of CIA involvement.

2David Rockefeller's 'One World' Admission and Trilateral Commission Founding

David Rockefeller, founder of the Trilateral Commission, explicitly stated in his 2003 autobiography, 'Memoirs,' that if the charge is conspiring to build 'a more integrated global political and economic structure—one world, if you will,' then he stands 'guilty and I am proud of it.' John Kiryaku, a former CIA officer, recounted an instance where Rockefeller used a banking award as a cover to be transported by military plane to Baghdad to deliver a message to Saddam Hussein, illustrating his 'fixer' role in global politics.

David Rockefeller's autobiography 'Memoirs' (2003); John Kiryaku's anecdote about Rockefeller's visit to Bahrain/Baghdad.

3Jeffrey Epstein's Membership in the Trilateral Commission

Jeffrey Epstein himself, in a recorded interview with Steve Bannon, confirmed his membership in the Trilateral Commission, describing it as a group formed by David Rockefeller to combine 'politics and business and leadership' from North America, Europe, and Asia. Epstein stated he was invited to join at age 30 or 32, alongside figures like Bill Clinton and Paul Volcker, and considered it a significant credential.

Jeffrey Epstein's on-camera interview with Steve Bannon.

4Les Wexner's Deposition: Claim of Being 'Conned' and Discrepancies

In his deposition, billionaire Les Wexner claimed he was 'conned by the world's greatest con artist' (Jeffrey Epstein) and denied being warned about Epstein by his friend Robert Meister. However, a 2021 Vanity Fair report quotes Meister stating he and his wife 'warned Wexner to stay away from Epstein,' creating a direct contradiction. Wexner's body language during the deposition, described by the host as 'scared' and 'nervous,' is highlighted.

Les Wexner's deposition clips; Vanity Fair report (2021) quoting Robert Meister.

5Bill Gates' Admissions and Epstein's Alleged Blackmail

Bill Gates admitted to two affairs, one with a Russian bridge player, Masha, whom Epstein allegedly introduced him to. Epstein reportedly sent a coded email to Gates, implying that 'scandals like this' could emerge if Gates did not fulfill financial obligations related to an investment Epstein made in Masha's company, suggesting blackmail.

New York Post article; Wall Street Journal article (2-3 years prior); host's interpretation of Epstein's email.

6Epstein's Secret Storage Units and Contents

Financial records and emails reviewed by The Telegraph revealed Jeffrey Epstein secretly rented at least six storage units across the US from 2003 to 2019. These units, which the FBI reportedly never searched, contained 'sex slave manuals,' dozens of address books, a 'huge porn stash,' VHS tapes and DVDs depicting erotic acts with children, sex toys, and 'lab results.'

New York Post report citing The Telegraph; inventory list obtained by The Telegraph.

7Tom Pritzker's 'Boys with Toys' Email

An email from June 2011 shows billionaire Tom Pritzker writing to Epstein about a trip to Afghanistan: 'Petraeus loaned me a helicopter actually two and it was my birthday wish I'm going out to see boys with toys in Afghanistan won't have much signal.' The host notes that 'Boys with Toys Afghanistan' is a known term associated with pedophilia in the region, and Pritzker later stepped down from a board position.

Email from Tom Pritzker to Jeffrey Epstein (June 2011); host's research on the term 'Boys with Toys Afghanistan'.

Bottom Line

The timing of Palantir securing a $458 million data analytics contract with the US government in December 2019, shortly after Christine Maxwell (Chiliad founder) stepped down from her board role, suggests a potential hand-off or acquisition of critical government data infrastructure from one powerful entity to another, possibly linked to existing intelligence networks.

So What?

This raises questions about the continuity of data control within the US intelligence community and whether the Maxwell family's influence on sensitive data systems was transferred or replaced by another private entity with similar deep ties.

Impact

Further investigation into the transition of government data contracts, particularly those related to counter-terrorism and intelligence, around 2019, and the individuals involved in both Chiliad and Palantir during that period.

The host speculates that Epstein's secret storage units might contain a 'dead man switch' – compromising information designed to be released if certain events occurred, ensuring continued protection or leverage even after his death.

So What?

If true, this implies a deeper level of strategic planning by Epstein and could mean that more damaging information about powerful individuals might still exist and could be revealed, potentially through a third party.

Impact

Continued public pressure and independent investigative journalism to uncover the full contents and potential distribution mechanisms of Epstein's hidden assets and data.

Key Concepts

Supra-Government

This model, attributed to Tucker Carlson, posits that elected governments are not the ultimate authority. Instead, there are at least two layers above them: a 'fixer' class (like Jeffrey Epstein) who hold leverage over world leaders, and an 'actual ruling class' (like banking families and Trilateral Commission members) who truly run the world and dictate global events.

Distraction as Control

The idea that governments and powerful entities intentionally introduce or amplify major news events (e.g., UFO files, international conflicts) to divert public attention and outrage from critical, inconvenient truths, such as the revelations from the Epstein files.

Lessons

  • Demand transparency and accountability from officials regarding the Epstein files, particularly the 3 million emails allegedly withheld in violation of federal law.
  • Critically evaluate major news cycles (e.g., UFO disclosures, international conflicts) for potential 'distraction' tactics aimed at diverting public attention from inconvenient truths.
  • Question the special treatment given to powerful individuals (e.g., Les Wexner, the Clintons) who are deposed on their 'own turf' rather than in public hearings, and advocate for equal application of legal processes.
  • Support independent journalism and research that connects seemingly disparate events and individuals, challenging mainstream narratives and seeking deeper structural explanations for global power dynamics.

Notable Moments

John Kiryaku, a former CIA whistleblower, was visibly speechless and deeply affected by emails referencing a '9/11 shadow commission,' suggesting it challenged his understanding of the events.

Kiryaku's reaction, given his extensive CIA background and prior belief in aspects of the official 9/11 narrative, underscores the potentially profound and unsettling nature of the 'shadow commission' information, indicating it could alter the perceptions of even seasoned intelligence professionals.

The host expressed profound frustration and anger over the lack of widespread public protests and outrage concerning child trafficking revelations in the Epstein case, contrasting it with the intensity of other protests over single deaths.

This highlights a perceived societal apathy or suppression of outrage regarding one of the most heinous crimes, suggesting a systemic issue in how society prioritizes and responds to different forms of injustice, especially when powerful figures are implicated.

Quotes

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"If that's the charge, I stand guilty and I am proud of it."

David Rockefeller
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"I was conned by the world Olympic all-time con artist."

Les Wexner
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"David Rockefeller is the secret back channel to Saddam Hussein."

Ambassador David Ransom (recounted by John Kiryaku)
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"You have your governments, your presidents, and your elected leaders... and you used to think they were like maybe the top of the chainishish at least, and the reality is there's at least two layers above them at least."

Host (paraphrasing Tucker Carlson)

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