'Don't Know WHAT He Was Thinking...' Dave Smith Returns For Iran Debate 2! Plus Husam Zomlot

Palestinian Ambassador Husam Zomlot argues that Israel's policies, particularly the new law allowing the death penalty for Palestinian terrorists but not Israelis, constitute 'flagrant apartheid.' He states that Israel's historical actions, including the annexation of the West Bank and settler terrorism, are the root causes of the conflict, making groups like Hamas a consequence rather than the origin. Zomlot warns that the international community's silence or complicity normalizes genocide and expands the conflict beyond Gaza.

Zomlot cites the new Israeli law on the death penalty for Palestinians, settler violence in the West Bank, and the historical context of the Nakba and occupation. Piers Morgan agrees, calling the law 'despicable.'

Dave Smith contends that the US government, through its military interventions and the resulting civilian casualties over the past 25 years, is 'arguably the worst terrorist organization in the world.' He specifically criticizes Donald Trump's social media post threatening that 'an entire civilization will die tonight,' arguing that such language, even if interpreted as targeting infrastructure, constitutes state-sponsored mass murder against a civilian population.

Smith refers to Trump's tweet and the broader history of US military actions. He challenges Ben Ferguson's defense of Trump's 'surgical strikes,' arguing that destroying electricity grids and bridges directly causes immense civilian suffering and death.

Ben Ferguson defends Donald Trump's aggressive stance and rhetoric against Iran, characterizing it as a 'FAFO' (F*** Around and Find Out) foreign policy. He argues that Trump's threats are directed at the Iranian leadership to prevent them from acquiring nuclear weapons and shutting down vital shipping lanes like the Strait of Hormuz. Ferguson asserts that Iran poses an existential threat, having killed more American soldiers than any other regime, and that Trump's actions are necessary to ensure US security.

Ferguson cites Iran's 60% enriched uranium, their stated intent of 'death to America,' and their historical sponsorship of terrorism. He contrasts Trump's willingness to enforce 'red lines' with previous administrations' failures.

Former Navy Seal Jack Carr highlights significant strategic miscalculations by the US and Israel in the ongoing conflict with Iran. He notes that intelligence suggested decapitating the Iranian regime would lead to an uprising and prevent the closure of the Strait of Hormuz, neither of which materialized. Carr emphasizes the danger of assuming adversaries share Western values, citing historical examples where different cultural and ideological frameworks lead to unexpected outcomes and prolonged conflict.

Carr refers to a New York Times piece outlining the intelligence assessment prior to the war. He draws parallels to the 1980s tanker war and the Afghanistan intervention, where US forces failed to learn from past experiences or understand the enemy's motivations.

Piers Morgan and Husam Zomlot discuss how accusations of 'anti-Semitism' are frequently weaponized to silence criticism of the Israeli government. Morgan argues that criticizing a government's policies is a journalist's duty and should not be conflated with hatred for Jewish people. Zomlot adds that this conflation does a 'huge disservice' to genuine anti-Semitism and that Palestinians, as 'Semites,' are resisting oppression regardless of the oppressor's religion or identity.

Morgan cites instances where he, Tucker Carlson, and Megan Kelly were labeled anti-Semitic for criticizing Israeli government actions. Zomlot points out that many Jewish people also oppose Israeli government policies and participate in pro-Palestinian marches.