Prosecutor drops BAD NEWS on Greg Bovino

Greg Bovino, a Customs and Border Patrol official, stated that calling federal agents 'Gestapo' or 'kidnappers' would lead to consequences. Former federal prosecutor Glenn Kirschner unequivocally dismisses this, asserting that such claims are legally baseless and a 'fantasy land' violation of the First Amendment. He argues that courts would never uphold charges against citizens for using these terms.

Bovino's statement: 'if you call federal agents kidnappers or Gestapo that there will be consequences.' Kirschner's rebuttal: 'It's beyond a first amendment free speech violation. It is a fantasy land that he's living in.'

Kirschner contends that the terms 'kidnapping' and 'Gestapo' are accurate descriptions of certain ICE operations. He cites instances where American citizens were detained for days without charges or lawful basis, which he, as a prosecutor, defines as kidnapping or false imprisonment. He also references documented citizen recordings showing behavior consistent with 'Gestapo tactics.'

Kirschner: 'they're acting like Gestapo and they are kidnapping people... We've seen them kidnap people including American citizens who they put in a jail cell for a day or two. Then they open the cell door, let them walk out, and they're not charged with anything. Why? Because there was no basis to take them into custody in the first place.'

ICE is accused of intentionally withholding the identities of agents involved in controversial incidents, such as the shooting deaths of Alex Prey and Renee Good, and relocating them to other areas for 'safety.' Kirschner argues that this anonymity prevents accountability and breeds abuse of power, contrasting it with standard law enforcement practices that require identifiable badges and names.

Bovino stating agents involved in a scene are working 'in other locations... for their safety.' Kirschner: 'Anonymity breeds abuse... with anonymity comes abuse of power.' He notes officers are 'masked up. They're not wearing proper insignia. They're not identifying themselves.'

Kirschner suggests that re-deploying an ICE agent accused of murder, without investigation or accountability, could lead to criminal charges (accessory after the fact) and civil liability for supervisors. He likens it to knowingly allowing a dangerous dog to continue biting, creating dangerous circumstances for new populations.

Host: 'this ICE officer... was taken out of Minnesota, put back on the streets.' Kirschner: 'I would call that accessory after the fact, plain and simple... by putting him back on the street, you are now endangering an entire new population... I think that could criminally and certainly civily put his supervisors on the hook.'

Despite federal obstruction, Kirschner, along with another prosecutor, developed a 'blueprint' for Minnesota state law enforcement to aggressively investigate the killings of Renee Good and Alex Prey. This includes methods to move forward with indictments and 'wrestle the evidence away from the federal authorities.'

Kirschner: 'I recently authored a piece jointly with Dave Arinberg... we set out a blueprint for how the Minnesota law enforcement authorities can and must aggressively investigate not only Renee Good's killing but now the murder of Alex Prey.'