The Joe Budden Podcast Episode 910 | Cannot Confirm
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Summary
Takeaways
- ❖Joe Budden believes 'Paradise' Season 2 is the 'most epic falloff of a television show between season 1 and season 2' due to poor writing and excessive backstory.
- ❖The hosts question the strategic wisdom of Dwight Howard's wife posting a video with a large bag of alleged cocaine while CPS is involved in their divorce.
- ❖A joint bachelor/bachelorette party is deemed a 'terrible idea' by the hosts, especially in light of Dak Prescott's wedding cancellation shortly after such an event.
- ❖The panel debates whether Dr. Dre's confirmed billionaire status is truly different from being worth hundreds of millions, with some arguing it's 'the same shit' at that level.
- ❖Ray J's claims that Snoop Dogg is mistreating Death Row artists regarding royalties spark a discussion about business ethics versus personal loyalty in the music industry.
- ❖The hosts express concern over the Rihanna shooting incident, emphasizing the terrifying nature of targeted violence and the need for increased celebrity security.
- ❖A pastor demanding church members' tax returns to verify tithes is criticized as an audacious scam, highlighting the exploitation within some religious institutions.
- ❖Live Nation's antitrust settlement with the US government is viewed skeptically, with hosts believing it's a 'drop in the bucket' and won't fundamentally change their market dominance.
- ❖Logan Paul is accused of 'ducking smoke' after challenging NFL players to a $1 million boxing match, then changing the terms when Le'Veon Bell accepted.
- ❖Clarissa Shields' confidence in beating male boxers is debated, with the consensus being that physical power differences make it highly unlikely, regardless of skill.
Insights
1Critique of 'Paradise' Season 2's Decline
Joe Budden expresses extreme disappointment with the second season of 'Paradise,' calling it an 'epic falloff' and a 'travesty.' He criticizes the writing room, the excessive backstory, and the slow pacing, feeling the show has become a 'joke' compared to its acclaimed first season.
Joe Budden states, 'This is the most epic falloff of a television show between season 1 and season 2. I don't know what happened in that writer room... this is a travesty what y'all have done to arguably one of the best television shows of last season.' He adds, 'It's just too much backstory for an entire episode.'
2Dwight Howard Divorce and Cocaine Video Controversy
The hosts discuss the public drama surrounding Dwight Howard's divorce, particularly a video posted by his wife, Amy Lucien, showing a large bag of alleged cocaine. They question the timing and strategy of this public display, especially with CPS reportedly involved, suggesting it might be a tactic for self-protection or divorce leverage, though likely counterproductive.
Amy Lucien's video details CPS involvement and her husband's alleged actions. The hosts question, 'If you're dealing with CPS coming to take your kids, is holding up a massive bag of cocaine a good idea?' and suggest she's 'trying to protect herself' or 'laying the groundwork for the divorce and the money.'
3Dak Prescott's Cancelled Wedding and Joint Bachelor Parties
Dak Prescott and his fiancée cancelled their wedding a month before the date, shortly after a joint bachelor/bachelorette party. The hosts universally agree that joint parties are a 'terrible idea,' as they eliminate the traditional 'last night' of individual celebration and can expose couples to aspects of each other or their friends they might not like, leading to conflict.
Joe Budden states, 'The joint bachelor party... the worst idea ever.' Ish adds, 'It's weird cuz there's supposed to be a night to enjoy with your friends before you... take the vows.' The discussion highlights how such events can reveal 'a side of him that she might not have ever seen before or vice versa.'
4Dr. Dre's Billionaire Status and Wealth Perception
Dr. Dre is officially confirmed as a billionaire, prompting a discussion about the significance of this milestone versus being a multi-millionaire. Some hosts argue that once a person reaches hundreds of millions, the practical difference between that and a billion is negligible, while others emphasize the symbolic and aspirational value of the 'billionaire' title.
A host announces, 'Dr. Dre has inner billionaire.' Joe Budden questions, 'What is the difference?' and references a past statement: 'Anybody at 200 million and up, go ahead. It's the same shit.'
5Snoop Dogg, Death Row Records, and Artist Royalties
Ray J's public accusation that Snoop Dogg is acting like 'the new Suge Knight' by withholding royalties from Death Row artists sparks a debate. The hosts discuss the ethical responsibility of an artist who acquires their former label to compensate original creators, balancing business acquisition costs with historical exploitation and personal relationships.
Ray J's comments are summarized: 'Snoop is the new Suge Knight... he's mistreating the Death Row artists and not their royalties.' The hosts ponder, 'What does he gain from holding royalties?' and 'Why don't you just look out your go ahead take this and go ahead go your way.'
6Rihanna Home Shooting and Celebrity Security
A woman was charged with attempted murder after firing 10 shots into Rihanna's home while Rihanna and her children were inside. The hosts express horror at the incident, highlighting the extreme dangers of celebrity obsession and mental illness. They advocate for significantly increased security for high-profile figures to prevent such terrifying events.
The incident is described: '10 shots were fired and into the house. That's terrifying.' Mark emphasizes, 'That's the problem with mental illness. There's no rhyme or reason.' Joe Budden concludes, 'Rihanna is too valuable for us to have that the Selena moment.'
7Pastor Demanding Tax Returns for Tithes
A video of a pastor demanding church members submit their tax returns to verify their tithes ignites outrage. The hosts condemn this as an exploitative tactic, questioning the audacity and lack of genuine spiritual guidance, suggesting it's a 'scam' that leverages faith for financial gain.
The pastor's video states, 'All church members bring a copy of your tax returns so that I can review them. I'm going to put a stop to some of y'all playing in my face during tithes and offerings.' Joe Budden exclaims, 'You ain't my principal that's grading me on how honest I am. Get the f*** out of here.'
8Live Nation/Ticketmaster Antitrust Settlement
Live Nation reached a settlement in its antitrust lawsuit with the US government, which includes divesting from some venues and capping service fees at 15%. While acknowledging some 'concrete things,' the hosts remain highly skeptical, viewing the settlement as a 'drop in the bucket' that won't dismantle the company's monopoly or truly benefit consumers.
The settlement details are discussed: 'Live Nation has to divest from some of investments in the venues' and 'Ticket Master will be required to open parts of its platform to rival ticket companies.' However, Joe Budden states, 'This was always going to be the outcome.' and 'I think this is absolute s***.'
9Obama's Perceived Snub of Jeremiah Wright at Jesse Jackson's Funeral
During Jesse Jackson's funeral, President Obama delivered a eulogy but notably omitted any mention of Jeremiah Wright, his former pastor. Mark criticizes this as a 'low moment' and a disrespectful act, arguing Obama 'could have risen above the moment' and acknowledged Wright's significant contributions, especially given Jackson's own relationship with Wright.
Mark states, 'I watched President Obama give a very very good eulogy. Uh but I watched him shout out all the pastors that were there and he ignored Jeremiah Wright. He skipped right over Jeremiah Wright and I thought that that was awful.'
Quotes
"This is the most epic falloff of a television show between season 1 and season 2. I don't know what happened in that writer room... this is a travesty what y'all have done to arguably one of the best television shows of last season."
"When good living produces a hit, we call them a plant."
"I think 75% of the time a DJ kills the set more when the club is closing."
"If you're dealing with CPS coming to take your kids, is holding up a massive bag of cocaine a good idea?"
"I don't think he got caught on doing anything on the yacht. Not the guy that agreed to do the joint bachelor bachelorette party with the friends. I just don't say..."
"I think he probably felt pretty good at 600 million."
"What separates us from the from from the s*** we critique so much? Exactly. What separate what separates us from the the the the gatekeepers or the white people or the or the I'm with you on that, you know what I mean? The vultures that we knock so much if we carrying on the same way that they do."
"A man of equal skill is going to be the woman in boxing."
"People think they can fight even if they've never been trained to fight."
"All this other s*** is performative. They act like they care about this. They act like they care about that. Unfortunately, we want the slaps."
"I don't take their money. I don't tell them to tithe their taxes."
"I watched President Obama give a a very very good eulogy. Uh but I watched him shout out all the pastors that were there and he ignored Jeremiah Wright. He skipped right over Jeremiah Wright and I thought that that was awful."
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