It Is What It Is
It Is What It Is
March 13, 2026

WHY KILLA GOT TRUST ISSUES, SGA BREAKS WILT'S RECORD & IS THIS THE BEST KAWHI WE'VE SEEN?! | S8 EP45

Quick Read

The hosts debate controversial NBA player performances, relationship hypotheticals, and personal trust issues, offering raw, unfiltered opinions on everything from Wilt Chamberlain's record to Michael Porter Jr.'s past relationships.
SGA's record-breaking streak is impressive, but its historical context is debated due to the introduction of the three-point line.
Kawhi Leonard's 'load management' is a major point of contention, leading to distrust in his playoff consistency.
Personal trust issues, stemming from past experiences, profoundly influence one's perception of others, even in casual social interactions.

Summary

This episode of 'It Is What It Is' features hosts Mace and Cam, along with Stat Baby, discussing a range of topics from recent NBA games to personal relationship dilemmas. They debate the legitimacy of Bam's 83-point game, the unwritten rules of basketball, and a hypothetical scenario comparing cheating with multiple partners versus being in love with one other person. The conversation shifts to NBA analysis, covering the Celtics vs. Thunder game, Shai Gilgeous-Alexander's (SGA) record-breaking performance, the Denver Nuggets' playoff readiness, and Kawhi Leonard's 'load management' practices. Cam also reveals his deep-seated trust issues through a personal anecdote. The episode concludes with a discussion on Madison Pettis's accusation of Michael Porter Jr. being a 'psychopath,' with hosts weighing in on the timing and validity of such claims.
This episode offers a candid look into the subjective world of sports commentary and personal ethics, highlighting how deeply personal biases and experiences shape public opinion on athletes and social issues. It underscores the ongoing debate about 'unwritten rules' in sports and the challenges of player accountability, while also exploring the complexities of trust and relationships through raw, personal storytelling.

Takeaways

  • Mace believes Bam's 83-point game was 'tasteless' due to passing Kobe's number and excessive free throws.
  • A hypothetical debate on cheating reveals a preference for multiple meaningless encounters over one emotionally invested affair.
  • Mace suggests Dwight Howard needs guidance, seeing his struggles as an internal breaking point.
  • The Thunder's win against the Celtics was a good game, but Boston played without Tatum, making the loss less indicative.
  • SGA's 20-point consecutive game record is questioned for its equivalence to Wilt Chamberlain's due to the three-point line.
  • The Nuggets' playoff success hinges on Jamal Murray and Bruce Brown stepping up alongside Jokic.
  • Kawhi Leonard's 'load management' makes him untrustworthy for consistent playoff performance, despite his talent.
  • The Los Angeles Lakers are identified as a 'sleeper team' in the Western Conference, quietly climbing the standings.
  • Cam's deep-seated trust issues stem from witnessing violence and betrayal in his youth.

Insights

1The 'Unwritten Rules' of NBA Scoring Records

The hosts debate the ethics of a player like Bam scoring 83 points, particularly if it involves 'cheesing' tactics like intentional fouling to get the ball back. Mace feels it was 'tasteless' to surpass Kobe's record, especially with numerous free throws, suggesting an unwritten rule against such aggressive pursuit of individual stats.

Mace states, 'I don't think he should have did that. Like, you know, it's like Mumba, you you leave that alone. He's not here to defend that. You know, that's that was just kind of tasteless.' He also questions Miami fouling the Wizards to get the ball back for Bam.

2SGA's Record vs. Wilt: The Three-Point Line Debate

Shai Gilgeous-Alexander broke Wilt Chamberlain's record for most consecutive 20-point games. Mace and Cam debate the historical significance, with Mace arguing it doesn't mean the same because Wilt achieved his numbers without a three-point line. Cam counters that players don't control rule changes, but acknowledges the sentiment.

Mace: 'Wil was getting these numbers with no three-pointer. So, I don't know how much I could really put stake in this... It don't mean the same to me.' Cam references George Gervin's similar sentiment about Klay Thompson breaking his record.

3The Lakers as a 'Sleeper Team' in the Western Conference

Cam argues that the Los Angeles Lakers are the true sleeper team in the Western Conference, quietly tied for third place with Houston, while media attention focuses on other teams. He believes their success is being overlooked, despite concerns about LeBron's age and Luka's defensive liabilities.

Cam: 'the sleeper team right now is the Los Angeles Lakers cuz people are not talking about everything but the Los Angeles Lakers.' He notes their current third-place tie.

4Kawhi Leonard's 'Load Management' and Trust Issues

Mace expresses frustration with Kawhi Leonard's consistent 'load management,' stating it makes him untrustworthy for deep playoff runs. Cam elaborates, comparing Kawhi's unreliability to a friend who consistently disappoints, highlighting how past injuries and conflicting medical advice have fostered a lack of trust in his availability.

Mace: 'He rest so much that I don't I don't know how to how to really take it... I'm so over the whole um what they call it, low management. I'm over it.' Cam adds, 'He can't be trusted... we don't know what's going to happen if he's going to keep playing.'

5Michael Porter Jr. 'Psychopath' Accusation: Timing and Motive

Madison Pettis accused her ex, Michael Porter Jr., of being a 'psychopath' from their high school/college days. Mace believes the timing (years later) lends credibility, suggesting she waited to speak her truth. Cam, however, argues it's bitterness, especially if Porter Jr. was known for financially supporting ex-partners, implying a motive for her to speak out now.

Mace: 'I think where there's smoke, there's fire... she ain't wait this long to lie.' Cam: 'I disagree. [She] is bitter. New contract must have came up... She heard [he] paying a [different] rent. [She's] like, 'Why you ain't never get your rent paid?''

Notable Moments

Cam shares a deeply personal story about his friend who repeatedly went to jail, eventually abandoning a car wash business Cam helped him start. This anecdote illustrates Cam's profound trust issues, stemming from a lifetime of witnessing betrayal and violence in his community.

This moment provides a raw, unfiltered look into the psychological impact of Cam's upbringing, explaining his 'minus 50' starting point for trust with new people and his constant state of hyper-awareness, even in mundane settings like Chuck E. Cheese.

Quotes

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"I don't think he should have did that. Like, you know, it's like Mumba, you you leave that alone. He's not here to defend that. You know, that's that was just kind of tasteless."

Mace
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"I know a lot of times we joke and play around, but it just seemed like he needs the right type of um person to speak to him and somebody that could really navigate him from where he is right now."

Mace
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"The [person] who had the record, he wasn't shooting threes. He He got them numbers with just baskets. So I don't know how to think about that."

Mace
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"The sleeper team right now is the Los Angeles Lakers cuz people are not talking about everything but the Los Angeles Lakers."

Cam
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"I'm so over the whole um what they call it, low management. I'm over it. I'm over it. I don't care who's doing it. It's like if you guys going to be professional basketball players, you got to play the games, man."

Mace
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"He can't be trusted... That's like a [person] you know, I got a friend of mine, right? I won't say his name, even though I should blow the [person] up. Pause. You know, this [person] go to jail all the time, right?"

Cam
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"You damn right. Yo, the [people] in my neighborhood killed each other. How I'mma trust you? I tell [people] that all the time. When I meet somebody, you damn 50. You got to work to zero."

Cam

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