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Takeaways
- ❖Former FBI Special Agent Tony Box describes the killings by ICE agents in Minnesota as "murder," citing the unarmed status of victims Renee Good and Alex Prey.
- ❖Box asserts that ICE agents are "clearly untrained," particularly in de-escalation and crowd control, contrasting their conduct with standard law enforcement protocols.
- ❖He refutes the concept of "absolute immunity" for federal agents, stating qualified immunity does not cover criminal acts like murder.
- ❖DHS is accused of obstructing state investigations to conceal "damning, incriminating evidence" and prevent criminal prosecution of officers.
- ❖The core issue is leadership from the administration in Washington D.C., which Box says protects agents from consequences, rather than the individual agents themselves being inherently "bad people."
- ❖Box suggests the administration's escalation of violence and deployment of untrained agents could be a pretext to invoke the Insurrection Act.
Insights
1ICE Conduct in Minnesota Deemed Murderous
Tony Box, a former FBI special agent, explicitly states that the shootings of Renee Good and Alex Prey by ICE agents constitute "murder." He emphasizes that both individuals were unarmed, with Prey disarmed before being shot multiple times while on the ground.
Shooting people, unarmed people in the case of Renee Good as she drives away is essentially murder. And what happened to Alex Prey is also murder. He was unarmed at the time. They they disarmed him prior to shooting him. They stood over him and they shot several times.
2Inadequate Training and Lack of De-escalation
Box highlights a severe deficiency in ICE agent training, particularly in de-escalation and crowd control, contrasting it with the rigorous discipline in other agencies like the FBI. He notes reports of agents being rushed through training.
The training is not there. Clearly they are untrained. We have received reports the news media and all of us know that they are rushing these people through with inadequate training and it shows... The number one issue is deescalation. That's what we are trained to do.
3Refutation of Absolute Immunity and Limits of Qualified Immunity
Box dismisses the idea of "absolute immunity" for federal agents as "absurd" and a "lie." He clarifies that while qualified immunity exists for proper execution of duties, it does not extend to criminal acts like murder, questioning if a "reasonable person" would act as the agents did.
The concept of absolute immunity in this situation is absurd... You cannot kill with impunity... There is however qualified immunity. And these these individuals have qualified immunity to the extent that they are carrying out the business of the federal government and they do it in a proper manner. They they do not have qualified immunity for killing.
4DHS Obstruction of Justice
Box alleges that DHS is actively preventing state investigators from accessing evidence because they "do not want the truth to come out." He believes there is "damning, incriminating evidence" on the scene that would increase the chances of criminal prosecution against the officers.
Because they do not want the truth to come out. They do not want the evidence to be found. There is damning, incriminating evidence on the scene. And if the state investigators or other impartial investigators were act to access that, that would increase the chances of a criminal prosecution against those officers.
5Leadership Culpability and Potential for Impeachment
Box attributes the systemic issues within ICE to leadership from the administration, stating, "A fish rots from the head down." He suggests that administration officials like Pam Bondi and Kristi Noem could face legal exposure as accessories after the fact and even impeachment for directing agents and protecting them from accountability.
The problem is not the individuals. It starts with the leadership and it's coming from the administration in Washington DC. A fish rots from the head down... I certainly think it's a possibility [legal exposure]... I think it very well could be [grounds for impeachment].
6Escalation as Pretext for Insurrection Act
Box posits that the administration's purposeful ramping up of operations and escalation of violence, rather than de-escalation, could be a "pretext" to invoke the Insurrection Act. He dismisses claims of investigating fraud as "ridiculous."
I do. I think that that's a pro a this is all a pretext, right? Or it could be all a pretext. They have no desire. Look, they came in there talking about they wanted to investigate fraud. How ridiculous is that, right? It's not a fraud investigation. It's an investigation of terror and chaos for the purpose of ins of of, you know, invoking the insurrection act.
Lessons
- Advocate for comprehensive retraining programs for federal law enforcement, particularly ICE, focusing on de-escalation and crowd control techniques.
- Demand transparency and independent investigations into incidents involving federal agents, ensuring state and local authorities have full access to evidence.
- Hold political and administrative leadership accountable for policies that enable or protect misconduct by law enforcement, exploring legal and congressional avenues like impeachment.
Quotes
"Shooting people, unarmed people in the case of Renee Good as she drives away is essentially murder. And what happened to Alex Prey is also murder."
"The number one issue is deescalation. That's what we are trained to do."
"The concept of absolute immunity in this situation is absurd... You cannot kill with impunity."
"Because they do not want the truth to come out. They do not want the evidence to be found."
"This is all a pretext... It's an investigation of terror and chaos for the purpose of invoking the insurrection act."
"Alex Prey should be recognized as a hero. The reason why we're having this conversation and the administration appears to be backtracking somewhat is because of him and people like him who are out there fighting and exercising their constitutional rights and holding the administration accountable."
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