85 South
85 South
April 3, 2026

STILL SIPPIN W/ POUR MINDS, KARLOUS MILLER & MONEYBAG MAFIA | 85 SOUTH SHOW

Quick Read

The 85 South Show hosts and guests Poor Minds and Moneybag Mafia engage in a hilariously unfiltered discussion covering relationship dynamics, unexpected business ventures, and the pervasive influence of TikTok, all while sharing their unique perspectives on life's absurdities.
Relationships are expensive, and the 'ROI' is often questioned.
TikTok drives unexpected consumer trends, from electric bikes to hospital juice.
Authenticity and humor are key to building a loyal audience and personal brand.

Summary

This episode of the 85 South Show features guests Lex and Drea from Poor Minds, and Moneybag Mafia, diving into a wide array of topics with their characteristic raw humor. Discussions range from the evolution of artists like Jelly Roll and Miley Cyrus, to the scarcity of Black women in podcasting, and the complexities of modern dating, including the 'cost' of relationships and the concept of 'lame' partners. The conversation also touches on personal business ventures like do-rags with nanotechnology and custom cosmetics, the surprising influence of TikTok on consumer behavior and information, and a speculative pitch for a historical fiction series called 'Freeman.' The group also shares outrageous personal anecdotes and observations about animals, pop culture, and the challenges of being 'perfect.'
This episode offers a candid, no-holds-barred look into contemporary Black culture, relationships, and entrepreneurship through the lens of seasoned comedians and media personalities. It highlights the blend of humor, personal experience, and sharp, if unconventional, business insights that define this segment of entertainment, providing a unique cultural snapshot and demonstrating how personal brand and authenticity drive engagement.

Takeaways

  • White rappers often transition to country music, exemplified by Jelly Roll and Miley Cyrus's career shifts.
  • There's a perceived lack of older Black women in podcasting, presenting an opportunity for new content development.
  • The 'cost' of relationships is universally high, regardless of income level, leading many to opt for singlehood.
  • TikTok significantly influences purchasing decisions, from skincare to electric bikes and even 'hospital juice'.
  • A speculative TV series idea, 'Freeman,' envisions free Black people in the 1800s, blending historical fiction with comedic and dramatic elements.
  • The concept of 'lame' is subjective in relationships, and sometimes 'lame' partners offer stability after heartbreak.
  • Men are advised to 'out-fun' women on dates and use social media to create intrigue, mirroring tactics often used by women.
  • Personal business ventures include do-rags with stem cell technology for hair growth and shea/cocoa butter for eczema.
  • The beauty industry is thriving, with new product development focusing on unique offerings like lip stain liners.
  • Zoo animals are often depressed and lack the 'wild' instincts of their counterparts, leading to a discussion on animal behavior in captivity.

Insights

1Artist Evolution and Genre Transition

Many white rappers, such as Jelly Roll and Miley Cyrus, have successfully transitioned into other genres like country music or pop. This often involves shedding a 'ghetto' or 'thugged out' image to achieve broader mainstream success and critical acclaim, like Miley Cyrus winning 75 Grammys after her 'wrecking ball' era.

Discussion of Jelly Roll's past as a 'gangster rapper' and Miley Cyrus's 'rapper for about two summers' phase with Juicy J, followed by her pop success.

2Opportunity in Black Women's Podcasting

There is a notable void in the podcasting space for older Black women, particularly at major industry events. This presents a significant opportunity to develop content that bridges generational gaps, potentially featuring older and younger Black female hosts collaborating to build and empower.

Guest Drea notes, 'It's not enough black women in podcasting though. For real. It's not at all. Like when we go to events sometimes and it it really only be me and Drea there.' She suggests 'a older female... with young, you know, them two together.'

3The High Cost of Relationships and Questionable ROI

Modern relationships are universally expensive, regardless of individual income. The hosts argue that the 'return on investment' (ROI) for the money, time, and effort spent in relationships is often poor, leading many, both men and women, to opt for singlehood.

Carlos states, 'It cost too much to [mess] with somebody right now.' He details how different income levels (from $1,000 to $1 million) see a significant portion of their money spent on partners, concluding, 'The ROI don't make sense no more.'

4TikTok's Influence on Consumer Behavior and Product Discovery

TikTok has become a powerful platform for discovering and purchasing a wide range of products, from niche skincare and clothing to unexpected items like 'hospital juice' and electric bikes. Its algorithm drives trends and influences buying decisions, often leading to impulsive purchases.

Carlos admits buying an electric bike for $19 from TikTok, and Drea mentions buying 'Dubai chocolate' and skincare products. Lex notes she sources all her house lighting from a Chinese vendor found via TikTok.

5The 'Number Two Spot' Strategy for Longevity

Maintaining the 'number two spot' in any competitive field (e.g., entertainment, business) can offer greater longevity and security than being number one. The person in second place faces less scrutiny and pressure, allowing for sustained relevance without the constant threat of being overthrown.

Carlos observes, 'You don't never want to rush to the top. Once you get up there, you know where to go. ... You ever noticed the [person] who in the number two spot, his spot ain't never in danger.'

Bottom Line

Donkeys are highly protective and violent animals, capable of killing predators like wolves, making them effective, albeit dangerous, guardians for property.

So What?

This challenges the common perception of donkeys as docile, friendly animals (e.g., Shrek's Donkey). Their aggressive nature makes them valuable for farm protection but also a significant risk.

Impact

For property owners seeking natural predator control, donkeys could be a viable, cost-effective alternative to traditional security, provided their violent tendencies are managed.

Hyenas give birth through their penises, a fact that causes them immense pain and contributes to their 'laughing' vocalizations, which are actually cries of distress.

So What?

This biological anomaly fundamentally changes the understanding of hyena behavior, revealing a darker, more painful reality behind their iconic 'laugh' and highlighting the often-unseen struggles in the animal kingdom.

Impact

This insight could be leveraged in educational content or documentaries to promote a more nuanced understanding of animal biology and behavior, moving beyond superficial observations.

Zoo animals, born and raised in captivity, often lack the natural instincts and resilience of their wild counterparts, appearing depressed and easily intimidated by their human handlers.

So What?

This suggests that zoos, while aiming for conservation and education, may inadvertently create a population of animals that are 'broken' or 'domesticated' in a way that undermines their true nature, raising ethical questions about captivity.

Impact

This perspective could fuel discussions around animal welfare, the ethics of zoos, and the potential for more naturalistic, less human-centric approaches to animal care and conservation.

Opportunities

Nanotechnology Do-Rags for Hairline Restoration

Develop a line of do-rags incorporating nano-technology and stem cells designed to stimulate hair growth and restore hairlines while worn.

Source: Moneybag Mafia

Shea Butter & Cocoa Butter Eczema Cream

Create a specialized hair grease or body butter combining shea butter and cocoa butter, formulated to address skin conditions like eczema and persistent ashiness.

Source: Moneybag Mafia

Lip Stain Liner

Develop an innovative lip stain liner that offers long-lasting color and definition, differentiating from traditional lip liners by its stain-like properties.

Source: Drea (Muse Beauty Collection)

Sketch Comedy Show Production

Produce a sketch comedy show, potentially leveraging crowdfunding for budget, and offering roles to various personalities from the podcast network.

Source: Moneybag Mafia

Talent Discovery & Development for 'Weird' Artists

Focus on discovering and developing 'weird' or 'obscure' talent with unique niches, gimmicks, or unconventional styles, aiming to find the next Post Malone or Logic, potentially leveraging white artists for broader market appeal and then 'falling back' for independent gain.

Source: Carlos Miller

Historical Fiction Series: 'Freeman'

Create a TV series about free Black people in the 1800s, blending historical fiction with elements of action, drama, and comedy. The series would feature diverse characters, including those who gained freedom through various means (e.g., scamming, scientific knowledge, inherited wealth) and explore their lives outside of slavery narratives. It would incorporate rappers in non-traditional roles and aim for a 'Django meets Rosewood' vibe.

Source: Carlos Miller

Lessons

  • In relationships, practice 'brutal honesty' by addressing issues directly and early, rather than waiting for resentment to build or for the relationship to end.
  • Leverage TikTok for personal and business growth by actively seeking out product recommendations, engaging with trends, and even finding international vendors for cost-effective sourcing.
  • For men in dating, adopt a strategy of 'out-fun' the woman by planning elaborate, exciting dates and documenting them on social media to create intrigue and a sense of missing out.
  • Support and seek out content from Black women in podcasting to address the current underrepresentation and foster community and generational collaboration.
  • When pursuing creative projects, consider unconventional talent and narratives, and don't be afraid to challenge traditional industry norms for casting or storytelling.

Notable Moments

Lex P reveals she spent $1500 on curtains for her new home, sparking a debate about financial priorities in home decor versus experiences like travel.

This moment highlights the personal choices and perceived value in luxury home goods versus other expenditures, and the hosts' differing opinions on what constitutes a 'good' investment or flex.

Carlos Miller admits to having 'walked somebody' on a leash, leading to a shocked reaction from the guests and a discussion on the nature of 'freaky' relationships and judgment.

This confession adds to the show's reputation for unfiltered, often outrageous personal revelations, pushing boundaries and sparking conversations about sexual preferences and societal judgment.

The hosts and guests discuss the disturbing biological fact that female hyenas give birth through their penises, causing immense pain and contributing to their 'laughing' sounds.

This unexpected and graphic animal fact provides a moment of dark humor and genuine surprise, illustrating the bizarre aspects of nature and the hosts' tendency to share obscure, shocking information.

Carlos Miller pitches a detailed concept for a TV series called 'Freeman,' about free Black people in the 1800s, complete with character arcs, plot twists (like a master's baby), and casting ideas.

This segment showcases the creative and entrepreneurial spirit of the hosts, demonstrating their ability to generate elaborate, culturally relevant media concepts on the fly, blending history, comedy, and drama.

Quotes

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"She was so ghetto they turned her ass back to Hannah Montana."

Carlos Miller
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"You really missing your money by posting all [your body]."

Carlos Miller
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"If you hear the words burst in your mouth and your first thought is pause, guess what? You got other [things] to be worried about."

Carlos Miller
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"You don't never want to rush to the top. Once you get up there, you know where to go. ... You ever noticed the [person] who in the number two spot, his spot ain't never in danger."

Carlos Miller

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