Ep 609 - Mega Heider (feat. Corey Heider & Nate Marshall)
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Summary
Takeaways
- ❖Corey Heider's contracting work involves breaking into foreclosed homes, often finding them filled with trash, animal waste, and sometimes deceased residents.
- ❖He describes one hoarder house where the trash reached eye-level, making a small dog appear to "pounce" at eye-level through a canyon of filth.
- ❖A significant childhood accident involved being hit by a car while riding his dad's stolen bike at 315 pounds, resulting in severe leg injuries and lasting arthritis.
- ❖He observed an AI-driven content creator who uses ChatGPT to generate sad, "messed up" stories and then uses AI to create videos, spamming them online for viral hits.
- ❖Corey views his personal history of "taking every L possible" as a strength, having learned "every way to not do that shit again."
Insights
1The Reality of Foreclosure Cleanouts
Corey's job as a contractor involves breaking into foreclosed homes, which are often filled with extreme filth, including trash, diapers, dead animals, and sometimes even decomposed human bodies. He carries brass knuckles and a gun for safety, as he never knows who might be inside.
So, I'm a contractor by trade, right? But all the houses... is filled with shit and diapers and dead things." () "When you go in there and there maybe has been a lady laying face down in the kitchen for 11 months, you might not know right away.
2Coping with Extreme Trauma through Compartmentalization
Corey attributes his ability to remain unfazed by gruesome discoveries, like dead bodies, to a "messed up childhood" that forced him to develop strong compartmentalization skills. He frames it as a choice between "getting real messed up" or "becoming the life of the party."
Yeah, I didn't care. Um, I forgot you're glazed over. I'm in I see I had a real messed up childhood that we're not allowed to talk about ever... compartmentalization is like, boy, she's on point, bro. If if it wasn't, I'd be in therapy right now.
3The 'Landlocked' Hoarder
Corey describes an encounter in a hoarder house where trash was piled eye-level, and he discovered a morbidly obese woman who was "landlocked" and unable to leave her home due to her size exceeding the doorway. She was living amidst the filth with her dog.
The whole house is a canyon of hoarde... eye level trash... I get into the living room and the lights are on. It's warm... this Chihuahua Yorkie mix... starts just like Simba in the Lion King like prouncing over this shit canyon towards me barking... I hear a voice... 'Did Martha send you?'... big girl living in the trash, bro. That's She can't leave cuz you know, you eat your way and you can't leave cuz once you get bigger than a door, 36 in.
4AI-Driven Clickbait Content Creation
The host describes an individual who uses AI (ChatGPT) to generate "very sad, messed up stories" and then another AI tool to create videos based on these stories. The strategy is to spam these videos online, with the expectation that one will eventually go viral and generate significant income (e.g., $10,000 a month).
This one guy, I was watching his video and he said he just like has chat GBTs like write a very sad messed up story and then he gets the he like looks through him. He goes, 'Yeah, that's pretty messed up.' Then he goes, 'Sawyer, make a video about this.' And then he just has AI just write these like clickbait weird or like write the story. Then has a thing AI do the video. And he just spams them online. He goes rich. One of them's going to hit and go viral. And you make like 10 grand a month off of just one.
Opportunities
AI-Generated Viral Content Machine
Use AI (e.g., ChatGPT) to create emotionally charged, "messed up" stories, then leverage another AI for video production. Spam these videos across platforms, aiming for a viral hit that generates passive income.
Homeless Bait Car Live Stream
Set up a "bait car" in a driveway, stocked with items like chapstick, applesauce, and water, and live stream the interactions of homeless individuals who enter it.
Lessons
- Develop strong compartmentalization skills to cope with difficult or traumatic experiences, as it can be a survival mechanism.
- Recognize that extreme situations can become normalized over time, highlighting human adaptability to even the most bizarre conditions.
- Be cautious of "scope creep" in projects (e.g., medical procedures, home renovations), where initial small fixes can escalate into much larger, more expensive undertakings.
Notable Moments
The Deer Corpse Collector
Corey describes encountering a "deer corpse collector" on the side of the road in Pennsylvania, who would load decaying roadkill into his truck without gloves, for an unknown purpose (possibly a municipal program or personal consumption). This illustrates the extreme and often disgusting ways people make a living or adapt to unusual circumstances, normalizing what most would find repulsive.
The Catheter Experience
After his severe bike accident, Corey recounts a traumatic experience in the hospital where medical staff had to "catharize" him, describing the process with graphic and comedic detail, including the nurse "starting a goddamn lawn mower" to remove it. This is a darkly humorous and memorable personal anecdote that underscores the vulnerability and indignity one can experience in medical emergencies.
Quotes
"It's like going bass fishing in a porta-potty out there, brother."
"Some money. Some men want money. Some want power. Some just want to watch the world burn."
"You can get used to a lot of shit for money."
"You got two choices here, bro. You can either get real messed up or you can become the life of the party."
"I'm an outside cat this whole time. I thought I was an indoor cat, bro."
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