Ep 604 - Tyler Gerben (feat. Steve Gerben, Dan Soder, Billy & Spud)
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Summary
Takeaways
- ❖The hosts satirize the 'manosphere' for selling unrealistic dating advice to 'invisible' men.
- ❖Scientology is discussed with a mix of skepticism and comedic speculation about its origins and celebrity appeal.
- ❖J.K. Rowling's controversial social media presence is framed as a 'bass' move from a billionaire who 'hates lesbians.'
- ❖A first-time gun range visit for Tyler Gerben results in unexpected fear and a humorous 'clamming up' incident.
- ❖Shane and other guests recount their chaotic and often unsuccessful college experiences, including dropping classes and failing exams.
- ❖A running gag involves Tyler Gerben believing he is Shane's 'Tyler Durden,' representing Shane's repressed desires for a more adventurous, 'cute' life.
- ❖The World Baseball Classic (WBC) is highlighted for its unique national teams, including a story about an Italian-American player's home run celebration with espresso.
- ❖The hosts humorously discuss the 'fog of war' on social media, where misinformation makes it impossible to discern truth.
Insights
1Critique of 'Manosphere' Dating Advice
The hosts and guests mock popular 'manosphere' dating advice, particularly the idea of 'don't chase them, they'll come to you.' They argue this advice is completely unrealistic for average men, suggesting that if they don't actively pursue relationships, they will remain 'invisible' and alone. This highlights a cynical, yet comedic, view on modern dating dynamics and self-help culture.
Discussion about 'Don't chase them, dude. If you don't chase, they'll come to you. It's like, 'Dude, they won't.' They're not even going to know you exist.'
2The Absurdity of Cults and Conspiracy Theories
The conversation frequently touches on cults like Scientology and NXIVM, and various conspiracy theories. They express disbelief at how people get drawn into these groups, often linking it to a lack of strong male figures or a desire for belonging. This extends to political conspiracy theories, which they often dismiss as overly simplistic or fabricated, such as the 'chess and 5D' theory about Trump's actions.
Discussion about Louis Theroux's Scientology documentary, 'Going Clear,' and the NXIVM sex cult documentary, noting the continued loyalty of followers. Later, mocking the 'chess and 5D' theory about Trump's political strategy.
3Tyler Gerben's Traumatic Gun Range Experience
Tyler Gerben, a first-time gun shooter, recounts his experience at a gun range. Despite initial excitement, the loud noises and immediate violence of firing a handgun caused him to 'clam up' and become scared. He only managed to fire one bullet from a silenced carbine and later from a belt-fed machine gun, but spent most of the time observing, highlighting his unexpected anxiety in a high-intensity environment.
Gerben describes the loud pops, the immediate violence of the shell ejecting, and his fear, leading him to 'clam up' and yell at the instructor. He fired one bullet from the first gun and then stood in the back, eventually firing the machine gun.
4The 'Tyler Durden' Theory: Gerben as Shane's Alter Ego
A running comedic theory is introduced where Tyler Gerben is perceived as Shane's 'Tyler Durden' from Fight Club. Gerben believes he embodies Shane's repressed desires for a more refined, adventurous, and 'cute' life, contrasting with Shane's more 'masculine' and 'uncomfortable' persona. This leads to humorous exchanges about Gerben's use of words like 'cute' and his more 'effeminate' interests, which Shane finds unsettling.
Gerben states, 'I'm his Tyler Durden.' Shane describes Gerben saying things like, 'Jolene is the cutest date spot,' and his preference for tailored clothes and certain music, which Shane finds 'gay' or 'uncomfortable.'
5The Pasquatch: A Baseball Legend's Commitment to Fun
The hosts share an anecdote about Vinnie Pasquantino, a first baseman for the Kansas City Royals and captain of Team Italy in the WBC, nicknamed 'The Pasquatch.' After a comedy show, Pasquantino chose to go out with the comedians instead of resting for an early game, famously declaring, 'F**k it, I'm DHing.' Despite his late night, he hit a home run the next day, solidifying his legend as a fun-loving, yet clutch, player.
Shane recounts Pasquantino saying, 'F**k it, I'm DHing and I'll go out with you guys,' after a show, then hitting a home run the next day.
Notable Moments
Critique of 'Manosphere' Dating Advice
The hosts' comedic takedown of generic dating advice highlights the disconnect between online self-help and real-world experiences, resonating with listeners who find such advice unrealistic.
Tyler Gerben's Gun Range Panic
Gerben's unexpected fear and 'clamming up' at a gun range provides a highly relatable and humorous moment, contrasting his initial bravado with his actual reaction.
The 'Tyler Durden' Theory
This running gag offers a deep, albeit comedic, look into the perceived personalities of Shane and Gerben, creating a unique dynamic and recurring source of humor for the podcast.
Shane's College Drop-Out Story
Shane's candid recounting of his chaotic college career, including missing classes for a month and dropping out at a red light, provides a self-deprecating and humorous look at academic struggles.
The Pasquatch Baseball Story
This anecdote about Vinnie Pasquantino's dedication to fun and subsequent clutch performance in baseball creates a memorable and inspiring, yet comedic, sports legend.
Quotes
"Don't chase them, dude. If you don't chase, they'll come to you. It's like, 'Dude, they won't.' They're not even going to know you exist."
"She's like, 'Yeah, she gets on Twitter's like, 'Yo, shut the f*** up, lesbians.'"
"I was like, 'Dude, I'm not going to get blown up. I might get blown up now. Now there could be a terrorist attack.' He was like, 'Yeah, cuz f*** that idiot before Trump let all those f***ing terrorists into the country.'"
"I clammed up. I didn't think I was going to clam up."
"You're the dude. You're Ed Norton. No, he's just the reverse."
"I'm not built for um open world games. It's impossible. I'm a 2D game."
"Ricky don't care if John hit 316. Ricky going to hit 350."
"F*** it. I'm DHing and I'll go out with you guys."
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