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January 9, 2026

Is This The Grossest Thing A Trump Official Has Ever Done?

Quick Read

Hosts express outrage over a fatal ICE shooting, the Trump administration's defense of the officer, and the President's 'might makes right' foreign policy, contrasting it with local leaders' efforts to protect citizens and expand social programs.
Trump officials, including JD Vance, immediately defended an ICE officer who fatally shot Renee Good, labeling her a 'deranged leftist' despite video evidence contradicting self-defense claims.
President Trump declared his power is limited only by 'my own morality,' expressing a desire to 'own' Greenland and 'take' Venezuelan oil, signaling a 'might makes right' foreign policy.
Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Fry is actively working to prevent federal provocations, while NYC Mayor Zoran Mdani secured $1.21 billion for universal child care, demonstrating local resistance and progressive action.

Summary

The hosts open with intense condemnation of JD Vance's response to the fatal ICE shooting of Renee Good in Minneapolis, highlighting the administration's immediate defense of the officer and characterization of the victim as a 'deranged leftist' despite video evidence. They discuss the DHS use-of-force policy, which appears to contradict the officer's actions. Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Fry details the city's efforts to protect residents from what he views as unconstitutional ICE behavior and the administration's attempts to provoke unrest. The conversation shifts to Trump's foreign policy, where he asserts his power is limited only by his 'own morality,' and his desire to 'own' Greenland and 'take' Venezuelan oil. Finally, New York City Mayor Zoran Mdani announces a significant investment in universal child care, showcasing a contrasting approach to governance focused on social programs and immigrant protection.
This episode exposes a stark contrast in governance philosophies: one prioritizing unchecked executive power, aggressive enforcement, and political narrative over facts, and another focused on local protection, community resilience, and expanding social services. It highlights the erosion of accountability for federal agents, the weaponization of language by high-ranking officials, and the potential for federal actions to destabilize local communities. For citizens, it underscores the importance of understanding rights and local leadership's role in mitigating federal overreach, while for policymakers, it presents models for both controversial federal action and progressive local policy implementation.

Takeaways

  • JD Vance's public statements regarding the Renee Good shooting were described as 'disgusting' and 'unburdened by decency, morality, or shame,' immediately labeling the victim a 'deranged leftist' and 'domestic terrorist.'
  • Video analysis of the ICE shooting of Renee Good suggests the officer was not in the path of the vehicle when firing, directly contradicting the self-defense claim and DHS use-of-force policy.
  • Multiple current DHS officials reportedly expressed 'shock' to CNN over the administration's prejudgment of the ICE shooting investigation.
  • Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Fry believes the Trump administration is intentionally creating chaos to justify deploying more military force in the city, targeting Latino and Somali immigrants.
  • Trump stated his power is limited only by 'my own morality' and 'my own mind,' not international law, and expressed a desire to 'own' Greenland for 'psychological' success.
  • New York City Mayor Zoran Mdani announced a $1.21 billion state investment to achieve universal child care for two-year-olds within four years, funded by existing revenues.
  • City officials in Minneapolis and New York are actively informing residents of their rights and leveraging sanctuary city policies to protect immigrants from federal overreach.

Insights

1Trump Administration's Unprecedented Defense of ICE Shooting

The Trump administration, including Vice President JD Vance and Secretary Christy Gnome, immediately and forcefully defended an ICE officer who fatally shot Renee Good, a mother of three, in Minneapolis. Vance labeled Good a 'deranged leftist' and 'domestic terrorist,' claiming she tried to run over the officer. This narrative was pushed despite eyewitness videos and a New York Times analysis suggesting the officer was not in the vehicle's path when firing, violating DHS use-of-force policy regarding moving vehicles. This stance was taken before any official investigation concluded, leading to shock among some current DHS officials.

JD Vance's public statements and tweets, New York Times video analysis, DHS use-of-force policy, CNN reports on DHS officials' reactions.

2Minneapolis Mayor's Strategy Against Federal Provocation

Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Fry views the increased ICE presence and the administration's rhetoric as an intentional effort to provoke chaos and justify deploying more military force, specifically targeting Latino and Somali immigrants. In response, the city is urging its community not to 'take the bait' by engaging in unrest that could provide an excuse for federal intervention, while simultaneously demanding justice and asserting First Amendment rights. Fry emphasized that the city's crime rates are down, indicating ICE's presence is not about public safety but political performance.

Mayor Jacob Fry's interview detailing the city's strategy, concerns about federal intent, and local crime statistics.

3Trump's 'Morality' as the Sole Limit on Power

In a New York Times interview, President Trump declared that he does not need international law and that the only limits on his power are 'my own morality, my own mind.' He expressed a desire to 'own' Greenland, stating it is 'psychologically needed for success,' and discussed the US 'using and taking' Venezuela's oil for 'years.' This perspective reflects a 'might makes right' approach to foreign policy, prioritizing unilateral action and personal will over established international norms and treaties, which the hosts argue will lead to a more chaotic and less secure world.

Trump's quotes from the New York Times interview regarding international law, personal morality, Greenland, and Venezuela.

4Bipartisan Movement on ACA Subsidies and Trump's 'Flexibility'

After ACA subsidies expired, 17 House Republicans voted with Democrats to pass a clean three-year extension. In the Senate, a bipartisan deal for a two-year extension with income caps and minimum payments was being discussed. A key sticking point is the Hyde Amendment, which bans federal funding for abortions. President Trump urged House Republicans to have 'some flexibility on Hyde' as part of a broader strategy to 'own healthcare' and avoid midterm losses, indicating a pragmatic shift to address a politically vulnerable issue.

House vote count, Senate deal discussions, Trump's statements to House Republicans on Hyde Amendment flexibility.

5New York City's Universal Child Care Initiative

New York City Mayor Zoran Mdani announced a $1.21 billion investment from the state to make universal child care a reality, specifically targeting universal 2-year-old care across the city within four years. This initiative aims to transform the ability of working families to raise children in a city where child care costs average $22,500 annually. The funding comes from existing state revenues, demonstrating a progressive local government's ability to deliver on campaign promises through strategic partnerships and financial planning.

Mayor Zoran Mdani's announcement, funding details, and timeline for implementation.

Key Concepts

Might Makes Right

This model describes a worldview where power and strength dictate what is permissible or correct, rather than established laws, treaties, or ethical considerations. Trump's statements on international law, Greenland, and Venezuela exemplify this, suggesting that the strongest nation (the US) can act unilaterally without consequence.

Narrative Over Reality

This model highlights a political strategy where a preferred narrative is aggressively pushed, even when contradicted by evidence, video, or facts. The Trump administration's immediate and consistent labeling of Renee Good as a 'deranged leftist' and the ICE officer's actions as self-defense, despite conflicting evidence, demonstrates a commitment to shaping public perception regardless of truth.

Lessons

  • Challenge official narratives: Do not accept government statements at face value, especially when video or other evidence is available. Seek out independent analysis from credible media.
  • Understand local rights and protections: Familiarize yourself with sanctuary city policies and 'know your rights' campaigns offered by local governments to protect vulnerable communities from federal overreach.
  • Support local leaders advocating for community protection: Engage with and support mayors and city officials who actively resist federal actions deemed unconstitutional or harmful to their residents.

Local Resistance to Federal Overreach (Minneapolis Model)

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Publicly denounce federal actions: Clearly state the city's opposition to federal operations deemed unconstitutional or politically motivated.

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Educate and empower the community: Inform residents of their legal rights and local protections (e.g., sanctuary city policies) to reduce fear and prevent unintentional escalation.

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Maintain peace and avoid provocation: Urge the community not to engage in actions that federal agencies could use as an 'excuse' to deploy more force or escalate conflict, while still supporting peaceful protest.

Notable Moments

Hosts express extreme disgust at JD Vance's comments on Renee Good.

This sets the tone for the episode, highlighting the hosts' strong emotional and moral condemnation of the Trump administration's rhetoric and actions.

Discussion of past ICE lies and lack of accountability.

Provides historical context for why the administration's current statements on the Renee Good shooting should be viewed with skepticism, demonstrating a pattern of deception.

Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Fry describes federal actions as a 'political performance' to cause chaos.

Trump's 'psychologically needed for success' quote regarding Greenland.

Reveals a highly personal and potentially irrational motivation behind significant foreign policy decisions, raising concerns about stability and international relations.

Trump's advice to Republicans on ACA subsidies: 'You have to be a little flexible on Hyde.'

Indicates a rare instance of Trump prioritizing political pragmatism over ideological purity, suggesting a potential shift in Republican strategy on healthcare.

Quotes

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"In the 10 years since Trump came down the escalator, that might be the most angry, infuriated, and disgusted I've been at something a Trump official, including not Trump himself, has done or said in this time. JD Vance is disgusting."

John Favro
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"That woman has is part of a broader left-wing network to attack, to dox, to assault, and to make it impossible for our ICE officers to do their job. Everybody who's been repeating the lie that this is some innocent woman who was out for a drive in Minneapolis when a law enforcement officer shot at her, you should be ashamed of yourself. This is classic terrorism."

JD Vance (quoted)
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"Firearms may not be discharged at moving vehicles unless the vehicle is operated in a manner that threatens to cause death or serious physical injury to the officer or others and no other objectively reasonable means of defense appear to exist, which includes moving out of the path of the vehicle, which is an option that that agent took."

John Favro (quoting DHS policy)
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"I don't need international law... my own morality, my own mind. It's the only thing that can stop me."

Donald Trump (quoted)
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"We are not going to take the bait. Uh we are going to keep the peace. We're going to demand justice... But we're not going to give them the excuse that they're already trying to create to come into our city."

Jacob Fry
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"You have to be a little flexible on Hyde. You know that you got to be a little flexible. You got to work something."

Donald Trump (quoted)
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"Ours is a city government that will stand with immigrants today and for every day hereafter. And it's also a city government that's going to follow the law and actually follow our sanctuary city policies."

Zoran Mdani

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