The Megyn Kelly Show
The Megyn Kelly Show
February 18, 2026

What The Epstein Files REVEAL, and Nancy Guthrie Latest, w/ Jashinsky, Grim, Shellenberger, and More

Quick Read

Newly released Epstein files reveal a global elite operating with impunity, engaging in sex trafficking of vulnerable adult women, and exposing deep ties to intelligence communities, while the Nancy Guthrie kidnapping investigation faces challenges with inconsistent official statements and a new lead from pre-abduction Google searches.
Epstein files show sex trafficking of vulnerable adult women, not a pedophile ring, with many elites downplaying their involvement.
Evidence suggests Epstein had deep ties to intelligence communities and used blackmail, as seen with Bill Gates.
Nancy Guthrie investigation is hampered by inconsistent sheriff statements, but new Google search data points to a targeted abduction.

Summary

The episode provides an in-depth analysis of the latest Epstein file releases, emphasizing that while no evidence of a 'pedophile ring' was found, there is substantial evidence of Jeffrey Epstein's involvement in sex trafficking adult, vulnerable women, particularly from Eastern Europe. The discussion highlights the complicity and downplaying of relationships by numerous high-profile figures, including Bill Clinton, Bill Gates, Prince Andrew, and former Obama White House counsel Katherine Rumler, with strong suggestions of Epstein's deep connections to intelligence agencies and potential blackmail operations. The second half of the episode focuses on the Nancy Guthrie kidnapping investigation, detailing the ongoing struggle to find useful DNA evidence, the sheriff's inconsistent public statements, and a significant new lead: pre-abduction Google searches for Nancy Guthrie's address and Savannah Guthrie's salary, suggesting a targeted kidnapping rather than a burglary gone wrong.
This episode exposes the alleged impunity of a global elite, revealing how powerful individuals leveraged their status to engage in illicit activities and how some actively concealed their associations with Jeffrey Epstein. It also underscores the complexities and frustrations of high-profile criminal investigations, particularly when public officials provide conflicting information, and demonstrates how digital footprints can become critical evidence in solving crimes.

Takeaways

  • Epstein files, totaling over 3.5 million pages, 2,000 videos, and 180,000 images, were released by the Department of Justice.
  • The documents do not provide evidence of a pedophile ring but indicate Epstein engaged in sex trafficking of older, vulnerable women (18-19 year olds, often from Eastern Europe) after his 2008 plea deal.
  • High-profile figures like Bill Clinton, Bill Gates, Prince Andrew, Larry Summers, and Deepak Chopra had extensive, often compromising, connections with Epstein.
  • Katherine Rumler, former Obama White House counsel and Goldman Sachs top lawyer, resigned after files revealed her close, post-Miami Herald report relationship with Epstein.
  • Evidence suggests Epstein used information for potential blackmail, as seen in a draft email threatening to expose Bill Gates' alleged affair and STD medication.
  • Epstein had extensive, unexplainable ties to intelligence communities, including a fake Austrian passport with a Saudi address, and was involved in cyber surveillance deals with Ahud Barack.
  • The Israeli Permanent Mission at the UN was responsible for security at Epstein's apartment in 2016-2017, indicating deeper state connections.
  • Howard Lutnik, Commerce Secretary, publicly lied about his limited contact with Epstein, despite business dealings and a visit to Little St. James Island after Epstein's conviction.
  • In the Nancy Guthrie case, DNA from gloves and the house has no CODIS match, leading to genetic genealogy efforts.
  • The sheriff's statements regarding the Nancy Guthrie investigation have been inconsistent, including conflicting reports on clearing family members and the nature of the crime.
  • New Fox News reporting reveals Google searches for Nancy Guthrie's address and Savannah Guthrie's salary occurred in the months leading up to the abduction, suggesting a targeted kidnapping.
  • TMZ continues to receive and publicize new ransom notes, but law enforcement emphasizes the lack of 'proof of life' as a critical missing element.

Insights

1Epstein's Shift from Underage to Vulnerable Adults

After his 2008 plea deal, Epstein reportedly changed tactics, focusing on trafficking women aged 18-19, primarily from Eastern Europe and Russia. These women, though legally adults, were highly vulnerable due to financial and social circumstances, making them susceptible to coercion and exploitation, a distinction from the earlier underage victims.

New York Times podcast analysis of documents; host's interpretation of legal definitions of sex trafficking versus 'gold digging'.

2Intelligence Community Connections and Blackmail

Epstein maintained deep, unexplained ties to intelligence agencies, including a fake Austrian passport with a Saudi address, and was involved in cyber weapons deals with former Israeli PM Ehud Barak. A draft email suggests Epstein planned to blackmail Bill Gates over an alleged affair and STD medication, indicating a pattern of leveraging compromising information.

Epstein's use of 'skiff' terminology; email exchanges with Katherine Rumler about CIA awards; Ryan Grim's reporting on Iran-Contra links; Bill Gates' alleged blackmail email draft.

3Howard Lutnik's Deceptive Statements

Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnik publicly claimed he cut ties with Epstein after a single 'disgusting' encounter in 2005. However, Senate testimony and CBS News reporting revealed he visited Epstein's private island with his family and engaged in business dealings with Epstein in 2012, after Epstein's conviction.

Lutnik's interview with Miranda Divine; Lutnik's Senate hearing testimony; CBS News reporting on Adfin business venture.

4Nancy Guthrie: Targeted Kidnapping Indicated by Google Searches

Fox News reported that Google searches for Nancy Guthrie's address and Savannah Guthrie's salary were conducted by an Arizona user in the months leading up to the abduction. This digital trail supports the sheriff's revised theory of a 'targeted kidnapping' rather than a 'burglary gone wrong,' suggesting the perpetrator specifically sought out Nancy Guthrie due to her connection to her famous daughter.

Fox News Digital report citing Google Trends data; Sheriff's statement on targeted kidnapping.

5Sheriff's Inconsistent Communication in Guthrie Case

The Pima County Sheriff has provided conflicting and ambiguous updates on the Nancy Guthrie investigation, particularly regarding the family's status as suspects and the potential involvement of Mexico. These inconsistencies have eroded public trust and complicated the understanding of the ongoing investigation.

Chronology of sheriff's statements: 'nobody cleared' (Sunday), 'family cleared' (Monday), 'not identified as suspects' (Tuesday), '100% certain family victimized' (Tuesday, within an hour of prior statement).

Quotes

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"In short, the answer is no. Basically, the 14 and 15 and 16y old girls that we've heard about were largely recruited for him. But what's important to understand again, the first time he went to jail in the mid late 2000s, it's on charges that he is soliciting underage girls to get massages. And when he gets out of jail, he appears to change tactics. He seems to decide he's going to be more careful about the law. What we see is a form of trafficking after he gets out of prison that relies mostly on women who were a bit older, 18 and 19year-old women from Eastern Europe than the victims we know about from before he died."

New York Times Podcast (quoted by Megyn Kelly)
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"I mean, they were a bit older, but they were still equally vulnerable in a different way with a different legal definition."

New York Times Podcast (quoted by Megyn Kelly)
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"I mean, it looks it looks like he was somebody that was involved in um you know is was involved his whole career in being an expert at moving money around, hiding money, creating tax havens. Uh probably I mean it I we can't prove it but I mean I think he looks like he was involved somehow in arranging finances uh during Iran Contra."

Michael Shellenberger
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"He was clearly an ass a very very valuable asset to um Ahoud Barack and Ahood Barack was working directly with the Israeli intelligence community in growing the Israeli cyber weapons industry around the world."

Ryan Grim
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"I am completely I think we put out a statement yesterday. I put it out 100% certain that this family has been completely victimized and the revictimization should not occur ever."

Pima County Sheriff

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