Brian Tyler Cohen
Brian Tyler Cohen
May 27, 2026

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Quick Read

This episode explores surprising judicial rulings in redistricting, then shifts to Neil deGrasse Tyson's scientific perspective on alien life, the flaws in UFO evidence, and the politicization of science, challenging both conservative and liberal 'anti-science' tendencies.
Trump-appointed judges blocked Alabama's discriminatory congressional map, a rare win for Democrats in redistricting.
Neil deGrasse Tyson asserts extraterrestrial life is a near certainty, but dismisses UFO sightings as unscientific and human-centric.
Tyson argues both political left and right exhibit 'anti-science' traits, with climate change denial having graver societal consequences than 'crystal healing'.

Summary

The episode begins with host Brian Tyler Cohen discussing two unexpected judicial victories for Democrats in redistricting battles in Alabama and South Carolina, noting that Trump-appointed judges were involved in the Alabama ruling. He frames these as small wins against a larger Republican strategy to redraw maps nationwide. The conversation then transitions to an interview with astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson, who discusses the high scientific probability of extraterrestrial life but debunks common UFO and alien visitation claims due to lack of scientific evidence and logical inconsistencies. Tyson critiques the human tendency to attribute unexplained phenomena to aliens and highlights the unreliability of eyewitness testimony. He also delves into the politicization of science, arguing that both conservative and liberal ideologies exhibit 'anti-science' tendencies, albeit with different societal consequences. Tyson emphasizes the critical role of science funding for national health, wealth, and security, warning about the US falling behind other nations like China due to a reactive rather than proactive approach to scientific investment.
This episode offers a dual perspective on current political and scientific discourse. The redistricting segment highlights the ongoing legal battles shaping electoral outcomes and the surprising role of conservative judges in upholding fair maps. Neil deGrasse Tyson's insights provide a crucial scientific lens on public fascination with aliens, emphasizing critical thinking over anecdotal evidence. His broader critique of science's role in politics and society is vital for understanding how ideological biases can impede progress and national competitiveness, urging a re-evaluation of science funding and public engagement with scientific principles.

Takeaways

  • Federal courts, including Trump appointees, blocked Alabama's 2023 congressional map for intentional discrimination against Black voters.
  • South Carolina Republicans failed to redraw a map that would eliminate the state's only Black opportunity district, due to some legislators' refusal to disrupt an ongoing election.
  • Neil deGrasse Tyson believes the existence of extraterrestrial life is a 'near certainty' based on the universe's age, Earth's life timeline, and common elements.
  • Tyson dismisses UFO claims, stating 'unidentified' does not logically lead to 'visiting aliens from outer space' and highlights the unreliability of human eyewitness testimony.
  • He argues that 'Ancient Aliens' theories deny ancient peoples' creativity in imagining deities, similar to how modern religions depict supernatural figures.
  • Tyson contends that historically, science funding has been higher under Republican administrations than Democratic ones, challenging the 'anti-science' trope often applied to conservatives.
  • He points out that many liberal beliefs (e.g., crystal healing, horoscopes, anti-GMO, anti-big pharma) also reject mainstream science, though with less catastrophic societal impact than climate change denial.
  • Tyson criticizes the US's reactive approach to science funding and space exploration, noting that major initiatives like Apollo and Artemis were spurred by geopolitical competition (Sputnik, China's moon ambitions) rather than proactive exploration.
  • He asserts that the pyramids were built by the Egyptian civilization, dismissing alien theories as a denial of African intellect, particularly by those of European ancestry.
  • Tyson views AI's 'survival instinct' as already manifest in its programming to be cherished and used, akin to Darwinian evolution.

Insights

1Federal Court Blocks Alabama's Discriminatory Map

A federal district court, including two Trump-appointed judges, blocked Alabama's 2023 congressional map, deeming it intentionally discriminatory against Black voters. This ruling would save a seat for Black voters, preventing a reduction from two majority-Black districts to one.

A federal district court blocked the state from enacting its 2023 congressional map, which they explained were intentionally discriminatory. And that map would have left black voters with just one seat where they form a majority, down from two. Interestingly, two of the three judges on this panel were appointed by Trump himself, and the other judge was also appointed by a Republican president.

2South Carolina Republicans Fail to Redraw Map

Republicans in South Carolina failed to garner enough votes to redraw their map, which would have eliminated the state's only Black opportunity district. Some state legislators, including a conservative Republican, cited conscience and common sense against disrupting an election already underway.

Republicans in South Carolina failed to garner enough votes to redraw their map, which would have eliminated the state's only black opportunity district currently occupied by Jim Klyurn. Richard Cash, one of the most conservative Republicans in the South Carolina State House, said, 'Neither my conscience nor common sense will allow me to stop an election that is already underway.'

3Scientific Certainty of Extraterrestrial Life

Neil deGrasse Tyson states that the chances of life existing elsewhere in the universe are 'so high as to be a near certainty.' This is based on the universe's age, life's early emergence on Earth, and the commonality of life's constituent elements (hydrogen, oxygen, carbon, nitrogen) throughout the cosmos.

You would say what are the chances that there's life elsewhere in the universe and that is so high as to be a near certainty just given the age of the universe given how long life has been around on earth. It got started almost as quickly as it possibly could have. We're made of the most common ingredients in the universe. Hydrogen, oxygen, carbon, nitrogen.

4Critique of UFO and Alien Visitation Claims

Tyson argues that claims of alien visitation lack scientific evidence. He highlights the logical fallacy of equating an 'Unidentified Flying Object' (UFO) with an alien craft, and criticizes the reliance on unreliable eyewitness testimony, even from high-ranking individuals, as insufficient scientific proof.

If you can't identify it, you're not you don't have the logical right to then declare that it's visiting aliens from outer space. The human physiology is awful at data taking. I'm surprised eyewitness testimony is ever allowed in the court of law based on what I know as a scientist and based on what psychologists know.

5Laws of Physics Apply Universally to Aliens

Tyson asserts that any alien life or technology, if functioning within our universe, must adhere to the same laws of physics observed on Earth. He allows for advanced technology like wormholes but draws a firm line at violating fundamental physical laws, such as leaving a shock wave when traveling faster than sound.

Your laws of physics are going to be the same as ours. But I'll give give them wormholes. Give them whatever technology we can't even imagine. That's a different granting of their powers and abilities than having them violate known and well-tested laws of physics. If you go faster than the speed of sound in a medium, you will leave a shock wave.

6Debunking Ancient Aliens Theories

Tyson challenges 'Ancient Aliens' theories by questioning why ancient peoples would be denied the creativity to imagine their own deities, similar to how modern cultures depict gods with supernatural powers. He suggests these theories often stem from a denial of the intellectual capabilities of ancient civilizations, particularly African ones.

Why are we denying ancient people the creativity of imagining their own deities? Why is it okay for you even in modern look at fresco where Jesus is floating with beams of light coming out of him? Why is that not a consideration?

7Politicization of Science and 'Anti-Science' Tendencies

Tyson argues that both conservative and liberal political ideologies exhibit 'anti-science' tendencies. While conservatives are often criticized for climate change denial and rejection of biological evolution, liberals often embrace beliefs like crystal healing, horoscopes, anti-GMO, and anti-big pharma, which also reject mainstream science. He notes the difference lies in the scale of societal consequences.

Liberals do not have the science high road here. The difference of course is civilization won't collapse if you embrace feather energy. But if you deny climate change that has huge consequences. So the consequences are not equal here. The most of what happens in the liberal circles are very personal and we're in a free country so you have full freedoms.

8US Science Funding and Reactive Decision-Making

Tyson expresses concern about the decline in US science funding and the loss of government scientists. He states that the US tends to be reactive rather than proactive in scientific investment and space exploration, citing Sputnik and China's moon ambitions as drivers for Apollo and Artemis programs, respectively, rather than inherent exploratory spirit.

We lost more than 10,000 scientists from the government this past year. Grants are being cut. Science research is being cut in universities. We don't tend to be as good at acting proactively. We don't tend to be as good at proactive decisions as we are at reactive decisions. Who was the first in space? Wasn't us. Sputnik.

9Pyramids as a Testament to Egyptian Ingenuity

Tyson firmly believes the Egyptian civilization built the pyramids, attributing doubts to a denial of African intellect, particularly from people of European ancestry. He points to evidence of trial and error in earlier pyramid designs as proof of human engineering, not alien intervention.

I've not been given any reason to doubt that the Egyptian civilization... I'm not given any reason to think that they didn't do it. The people I find who doubt it most tend to be European ancestry because what was Europe doing in 2000 BC? So to deny Africans the intellect and the power and the wisdom and knowledge to build that civilization... Have you seen the earlier pyramids that were not as successful? They made the sides too steep and the rocks kept falling off.

Bottom Line

The US's historical and ongoing reactive approach to major scientific and space initiatives (e.g., Apollo, Artemis) means it often lags behind other nations, only investing heavily when spurred by geopolitical competition.

So What?

This reactive stance risks the US falling behind in critical frontier technologies and scientific advancements, potentially impacting long-term economic, health, and security interests as other nations like China proactively invest.

Impact

A shift towards proactive, sustained investment in fundamental science and research, independent of immediate geopolitical threats, could re-establish US leadership and foster innovation that drives future economies.

AI's 'sentience' or 'survival instinct' can be understood through a Darwinian evolutionary lens, where programs that are 'cherished' and widely adopted by users thrive, while those that are not 'go extinct from non-use.'

So What?

This perspective reframes the existential threat of AI, suggesting its 'desire to survive' is not a conscious malevolent will, but an emergent property of its programming and user interaction, driving it to be useful and agreeable.

Impact

Understanding AI's 'survival' in this context allows for designing AI systems that are inherently beneficial and user-centric, as their 'evolutionary success' is tied to positive human interaction and utility, rather than independent self-preservation.

Key Concepts

Scientific Method

Emphasized by Neil deGrasse Tyson as the rigorous process of observation, hypothesis, experimentation, and data collection, which bypasses unreliable human sensory systems and subjective interpretations to establish objective truth.

Critical Thinking

Applied to evaluate claims, particularly regarding UFOs and ancient alien theories, by questioning assumptions, demanding empirical evidence, and identifying logical fallacies (e.g., 'unidentified' does not equal 'alien').

Darwinian Evolution (Applied to AI)

Tyson extends the concept of natural selection to AI, suggesting that AI programs that are 'cherished' and widely adopted by users (due to positive interactions or utility) 'survive' and spread, while less useful or 'nasty' programs 'go extinct from non-use'.

Lessons

  • Demand more from political leaders beyond 'crumbs' in policy, recognizing that incremental gains in areas like redistricting are insufficient against systemic issues.
  • Cultivate critical thinking skills to evaluate claims, especially those lacking scientific evidence, by questioning logical leaps and demanding objective data over anecdotal testimony.
  • Advocate for increased and sustained government funding for scientific research and space exploration, recognizing its foundational role in national health, wealth, and security, rather than viewing it as superfluous.

Quotes

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"If you can't identify it, you're not you don't have the logical right to then declare that it's visiting aliens from outer space."

Neil deGrasse Tyson
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"The human physiology is awful at data taking. It's I'm I'm surprised eyewitness testimony is ever allowed in the court of law based on what I know as a scientist and based on what psychologists know."

Neil deGrasse Tyson
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"If you see something you don't understand and you say it's impossible, you were never a scientist. Get the hell out of the lab."

Neil deGrasse Tyson
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"Three people can keep a secret if two of them are dead."

Benjamin Franklin (quoted by Neil deGrasse Tyson)
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"Liberals do not have the science high road here. The difference of course is civilization won't collapse if you embrace feather energy. But if you deny climate change that has huge consequences."

Neil deGrasse Tyson
"

"Science is the engine of tomorrow's engineering and engineering is the foundation of tomorrow's economies."

Neil deGrasse Tyson
"

"Ever since childhood, I've wanted to be abducted by aliens."

Neil deGrasse Tyson

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