Bad Friends Podcast
Bad Friends Podcast
April 13, 2026

Boiled Hamburgers w/ Brad Williams | Ep 316 Bad Friends

Quick Read

Comedians Bobby Lee and Andrew Santino, joined by guest Brad Williams, dive into absurd discussions ranging from doomsday prepping and long-lived animals to the intricacies of dwarfism in comedy and the bizarre concept of 'boiled hamburgers'.
Bobby Lee's doomsday prepping involves 5,000 Smart Waters and 'American soil' chickpeas.
Greenland sharks live 400+ years, and glass sponges can live up to 15,000 years, witnessing human history.
Brad Williams shares how dwarfism initially helped his comedy career but later posed challenges against being seen as a 'gimmick'.

Summary

This episode of Bad Friends features Bobby Lee and Andrew Santino with guest Brad Williams, navigating a series of wildly disparate and comedic topics. The conversation veers from Bobby's Y2K-style doomsday prepping, including his plan to grow 'American soil' chickpeas, to a deep dive into the lifespans of Greenland sharks, ocean quahogs, and glass sponges, complete with historical context. They humorously debate the concept of 'boiled hamburgers' and the unique dining experience at Lowry's. A significant portion of the discussion centers on Brad Williams's experiences as a dwarf comedian, the challenges and advantages of his unique perspective in the industry, and anecdotes from the Little People of America (LPA) convention, including the controversial Razzie Award for CGI Dwarf Actors and the historical figure Billy Barty.
This episode offers a masterclass in comedic banter and the art of finding humor in the mundane and the absurd. It showcases how diverse perspectives, like Brad Williams's insights into dwarfism, can enrich discussions, even within a raucous comedic setting. The hosts' ability to pivot between topics, from existential fears to obscure animal facts, keeps the audience engaged through unpredictable and often hilarious tangents.

Takeaways

  • Bobby Lee is actively preparing for a global food depletion, converting his backyard to grow 'American' vegetables and chickpeas.
  • The Desigual fashion brand originated from upcycling used denim patches, selling 'old crap' at a premium.
  • Greenland sharks are the longest-lived vertebrates (400+ years), while ocean quahogs (clams) live over 500 years, and glass sponges can live up to 15,000 years.
  • Orcas have no documented cases of killing humans in the wild, unlike dogs (25,000-30,000 deaths annually worldwide, mostly rabies-related).
  • The concept of 'boiled hamburgers' from a Wisconsin establishment sparks a humorous debate about whether the bun is also boiled.
  • Lowry's restaurant offers a nostalgic, elegant dining experience, reminiscent of 'The Shining' ballroom, appreciated for its ritualistic service.
  • Brad Williams details the Little People of America (LPA) National Conference as a week-long event for support, education, and community, often serving as a 'hookup convention' for single attendees.
  • The Razzie Award for 'Worst Supporting Actor' was jointly given to 'All Seven Artificial CGI Dwarf Actors' in a recent film, highlighting a contentious issue for real dwarf actors.
  • Billy Barty, an actor, founded the Little People of America (LPA), serving as a significant historical figure for the dwarf community.

Insights

1Bobby Lee's Doomsday Prepping and 'American Soil'

Bobby Lee expresses a fear of the world ending and a global food shortage, leading him to buy 5,000 Smart Waters and plan to convert his turf backyard into a garden for 'American soil' and seeds. He humorously insists on growing 'American' vegetables, initially rejecting chickpeas due to their association with hummus, before being informed they are easy to grow and nutrient-dense.

Bobby states, 'I have this fear that the world is ending... I'm going to get seeds... I'm going to convert my backyard... Put real American soil on there... I'm not growing hummus.' He later concedes to chickpeas after learning their benefits.

2The Longevity of Deep-Sea Creatures and Historical Context

The hosts and guest discuss the extraordinary lifespans of various creatures. Greenland sharks live over 400 years, reaching maturity at 150 years old, and were alive during the arrival of Africans in Virginia (1619). Ocean quahogs (clams) live over 500 years, witnessing the Protestant Reformation and Spanish Empire expansion. Glass sponges can live up to 15,000 years, existing since the last ice age and the early use of clay by humans.

Information is pulled up stating Greenland sharks live 'over 400 years' (), ocean quahogs 'over 500 years' (), and glass sponges 'up to 15,000 years' (), with historical events correlated to their lifespans.

3The Boiled Hamburger Phenomenon

Bobby Lee describes a TikTok video about a Wisconsin establishment celebrating 115 years of 'boiled hamburgers.' He initially misunderstands, envisioning an entire assembled hamburger (bun, patty, toppings) being boiled, leading to a comedic discussion about soggy bread. It's clarified that only the patty is boiled, which still elicits disgust from the group.

Bobby recounts seeing 'boiled hamburgers from 1903' () and his initial thought was 'they boil the whole thing' (). The video shows 'smashing it in the water' ().

4Dwarfism's Impact on a Comedy Career

Brad Williams discusses how his dwarfism initially helped his comedy career by making him unique and getting him on shows. However, it later became a hurdle as people perceived him as a 'gimmick,' making it harder to be recognized for his actual comedic talent beyond his physical appearance.

Brad states, 'At first it helped... people wanted something different on the show... But then it was harder to get past the threshold of people think I was a gimmick.'

5The Little People of America (LPA) National Conference

Brad Williams describes the LPA National Conference as an annual week-long event providing support, education, and community for people with dwarfism and their families. He humorously refers to it as a 'hookup convention' for single individuals and mentions a 'lore' that seven little people cannot be in a room together due to the 'Snow White' association.

Brad explains, 'every summer there's a national dwarf convention' () and that it's 'a hookup convention for young single' () people. He also mentions the 'lore' about 'seven of us in a room' ().

Bottom Line

The freedom of speech allows for mocking protected religions, creating a tension with the freedom of religion itself.

So What?

This highlights the inherent conflict between two fundamental rights in a free society, where the exercise of one can be seen as an infringement on the other, leading to ongoing social and legal debates.

Impact

This dynamic could be explored in comedic or dramatic works that challenge societal norms and provoke thought on the boundaries of expression and belief.

The 'Seven Artificial CGI Dwarf Actors' winning a Razzie Award for 'Worst Supporting Actor' reflects a broader industry issue where CGI characters displace real actors from marginalized communities.

So What?

This isn't just about a bad movie; it's a commentary on the diminishing opportunities for dwarf actors in Hollywood, as technology replaces human talent, particularly for roles that could authentically represent their community.

Impact

Advocacy groups and filmmakers could champion authentic casting and create more roles specifically for dwarf actors, pushing back against the trend of CGI replacement and promoting genuine representation.

Notable Moments

Bobby Lee's girlfriend uses a 'freezer spell' to 'cool off' Andrew Santino's negativity, which involved putting his name in the freezer with butcher box meat and frozen pizza.

This reveals a quirky, superstitious side to Bobby's personal life and introduces a humorous, albeit ineffective, attempt to control Andrew's personality through witchcraft.

Brad Williams performs a Stone Cold Stunner on fellow dwarf wrestler Hornswoggle at a Chris Jericho rock and wrestling cruise, eliciting a 'holy shit' chant from the crowd.

This showcases Brad's unexpected wrestling prowess and ability to engage with his audience in a unique, high-energy performance, blending comedy with professional wrestling.

Brad Williams humorously suggests that a dwarf was the first to map the human body by 'crawling inside' through a single slice.

This is a darkly humorous and absurd take on historical scientific discovery, playing on stereotypes in a self-deprecating and shocking way that is characteristic of the podcast's humor.

Quotes

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"I didn't think I had a great set. And now here we go. That annoying. So that's why I edited it out."

Bobby Lee
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"You're allowed to have the freedom to religion to any religion. I have the freedom of speech to mock your religion."

Andrew Santino
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"There are glass sponges that were around when a fucking hammer was invented."

Andrew Santino
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"I've always been a power bottom, Bobby. You know this."

Brad Williams
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"If I ever had sex with you and another girl, I would be laughing so fucking hard. I would not be able to get hard, dude."

Andrew Santino
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"To many women, to many women, you are the little person."

Brad Williams

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