The Rubin Report Podcast
The Rubin Report Podcast
March 16, 2026

The Real Reason Tucker Carlson Is Being Targeted by the CIA

Quick Read

Dave Rubin dissects the alleged CIA targeting of Tucker Carlson, the escalating 'influencer wars' among conservative media figures, and the Democratic Party's perceived radicalization, all framed through a lens of political strategy and media integrity.
Tucker Carlson's claim of a CIA criminal referral for Iran contacts is theorized as an unwitting role in a Trump intelligence operation.
Conservative media figures like Megan Kelly and Mark Levin are engaged in 'grotesque' infighting, prioritizing clicks over principled debate.
Democrats are blamed for a government shutdown over ICE reforms, while ignoring growing anti-American sentiment within their ranks.

Summary

Dave Rubin opens by discussing the 'influencer wars' among conservative media, specifically focusing on Tucker Carlson's claim that the CIA is preparing a criminal referral against him for communicating with Iranians. Rubin critiques Carlson's recent behavior and explores a theory suggesting Carlson was an unwitting pawn in a Trump administration counterintelligence operation against Iran. The episode then pivots to the ongoing public feud between Mark Levin and Megan Kelly, with Rubin expressing disappointment in Kelly's personal attacks and perceived inconsistency. He highlights Ben Shapiro's critique of Kelly's shifting stances based on 'clicks.' Finally, Rubin addresses broader political issues, including the partial government shutdown, which he attributes to Democrats' demands for ICE reforms, and the Democratic Party's 'Jewish problem,' citing Bill Maher's interview with Josh Shapiro and examples of anti-American sentiment at rallies.
This episode provides a critical, insider perspective on the internal conflicts and alleged strategic manipulations within conservative media and politics. It highlights the perceived erosion of principled discourse in favor of 'clickbait' and personal attacks, arguing that such infighting distracts from critical national issues like foreign policy and border security. The discussion on government operations and political narratives offers insights into how public perception is shaped and how ideological divides impact governance.

Takeaways

  • Tucker Carlson claimed the CIA is preparing a criminal referral against him for talking to Iranians, which he attributes to the Foreign Agent Act.
  • A theory suggests Tucker Carlson was unknowingly used by the Trump administration as a counterintelligence asset to feed faulty information to Iran.
  • The host critiques Tucker Carlson's recent shift, accusing him of endless obsession with Israel, undermining Trump, and promoting conspiracy theories.
  • Megan Kelly and Mark Levin are engaged in a public feud, with Kelly making personal insults and being accused of changing stances for 'clicks.'
  • The host praises JD Vance for demonstrating principled disagreement with Trump's Iran policy without undermining the administration publicly.
  • The Democratic Party is accused of having a 'Jewish problem' and being hijacked by radical elements who ignore anti-American sentiment.
  • Democrats are blamed for the partial government shutdown, holding DHS funding hostage over ICE reforms, and are accused of using the media to shift blame.

Insights

1Tucker Carlson's Alleged CIA Targeting and the 'Unwitting Pawn' Theory

Tucker Carlson publicly claimed the CIA is preparing a criminal referral against him for violating the Foreign Agent Act due to his communications with Iranians. The host, Dave Rubin, questions the specifics of the claim (e.g., CIA vs. NSA, DOJ referral) but highlights a theory by journalist Eton Fishberger. This theory suggests that the CIA, after discovering Carlson's contact with Iranians, informed President Trump, who then allegedly used Carlson as an 'unwitting counterintelligence asset' to feed faulty information to Iran, leading to a successful operation (Epic Fury) and Carlson's subsequent legal trouble.

Tucker Carlson's video statement (), Dave Rubin's analysis of the claims (), Eton Fishberger's tweet outlining the theory (), photo of Tucker at the White House before the Iran war ().

2The Erosion of Principled Discourse in Conservative Media: The 'Influencer Wars'

Rubin expresses frustration over the 'grotesque, incestuous' infighting among conservative media figures, which he terms 'influencer wars.' He criticizes Tucker Carlson for undermining Trump and Megan Kelly for engaging in personal attacks (e.g., 'micro penis' comments about Mark Levin) and for allegedly shifting her political stances based on 'clicks' rather than principle. Rubin contrasts this with what he considers principled disagreement, exemplified by JD Vance's respectful handling of policy differences with President Trump.

Rubin's opening remarks on influencer wars (), critique of Tucker's behavior (), Mark Levin's tweet about Megan Kelly (), Megan Kelly's 'micro penis' response (), Ben Shapiro's critique of Kelly's changing positions (), JD Vance's interview on disagreeing with Trump ().

3Democratic Party's Perceived 'Jewish Problem' and Anti-American Elements

Rubin discusses Bill Maher's question to Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro about the Democratic Party's 'Jewish problem,' given growing anti-Israel and anti-Semitic sentiments within the party. While Shapiro expresses faith in people's decency, Rubin argues that the Democratic Party has been 'hijacked' by radical elements who are openly anti-American and support terrorist organizations like Hezbollah and Hamas, as evidenced by rallies in Dearborn, Michigan, and New York City. He warns that moderate Democrats like Shapiro may face severe backlash from these factions.

Bill Maher's question to Josh Shapiro (), Shapiro's response (), video of anti-American chants in Dearborn, Michigan (), video of New York City protestors supporting Hezbollah ().

4Democrats Blamed for Government Shutdown Over ICE Reforms

Rubin asserts that the partial government shutdown is a deliberate tactic by Democrats, who are refusing to fund the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) in an attempt to force 'ICE reforms,' despite ICE already being funded through 2029. He argues that Democrats are holding vacation plans hostage and inflicting 'maximum pain' on citizens, believing this will turn public opinion against Donald Trump. He criticizes the mainstream media for providing cover for this narrative.

Discussion of the partial government shutdown (), Fox headline on airport security strain (), video of Democrats shifting blame (), Senator Ron Johnson's explanation of Democratic non-negotiation ().

Lessons

  • Critically evaluate information from media figures, especially those who frequently engage in personal attacks or appear to shift their stances based on popularity or 'clicks.'
  • Understand that political disagreements can be principled, but be wary of those who resort to manipulation, lies, or undermining efforts from their own side.
  • Recognize how political narratives are shaped, particularly during government shutdowns, and question mainstream media's framing of blame and responsibility.
  • Be aware of the potential for individuals, even prominent media personalities, to be unknowingly used in larger geopolitical strategies.
  • Support leaders who foster open discussion and consider diverse advice, but ultimately make decisive choices, rather than those who appear to be swayed by external pressures or personal gain.

Quotes

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"The CIA is preparing some kind of criminal referral against me, a crime report to the Department of Justice on the basis of a supposed crime I committed. What's that crime? Well, talking to people in Iran before the war. They read my texts."

Tucker Carlson
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"Tucker Carlson has allegedly been conducting his own foreign policy with Iran on behalf of the United States. At some point, the CIA got wind of this and informed President Trump, who may have then used Tucker as an unwitting counterintelligence asset to feed faulty information to Iran."

Eton Fishberger (read by Dave Rubin)
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"You're allowed to talk to Iranians even at a time of war. And you're allowed to talk to whoever you want. As a private citizen, you are allowed to do that. Now, do journalists get special protections? In some sense, yes. But in a day in a in a day and age when we all have one of these, the line between citizen and journalist, uh I would say is blurred at the very least."

Dave Rubin
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"Micro penis. That's the first time I've ever said that on the show, I think. Uh micro penis. Mark Leavvin thinks he's the monopoly on LWD. He tweets about me obsessively in the crudest, nastiest terms possible. Literally more than some stalkers I've had arrested. He doesn't like it when women like me fight back because of his micro penis."

Megan Kelly (read by Dave Rubin)
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"You know whose war this is? President Donald J. Trump's war. He's the president of the United States. He commands the United States military. She is such a coward. She is such an unbelievable coward. You don't like President Trump? You don't like what he's saying? Just say his name, you coward. You unbelievable coward. Tucker and Megan both. Unbelievable cowardice. Say his name."

Ben Shapiro
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"Mark Levin, a truly great American patriot, is somewhat under siege by other people with far less intellect, capability, and love for our country. Mark is tough, strong, and brilliant, hence the nickname, the great one."

Donald J. Trump (read by Dave Rubin)
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"I believe people are good and they are decent and they want to know who you are at a deep level. And when you are open with them, they're more apt to be open with you. I won that election, got more votes than anybody in the history of Pennsylvania running for governor."

Josh Shapiro

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