Swing Voters Are Creeped Out by JD Vance (w/ Will Sommer) | The Focus Group
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Takeaways
- ❖JD Vance struggles with swing voter appeal, with many finding him 'weird,' 'boring,' or 'creepy,' especially women who recall his 'childless cat ladies' comments.
- ❖Marco Rubio is undergoing a 'MAGA makeover,' gaining unexpected respect across voter segments for his perceived seriousness in foreign policy roles, contrasting with his 'Little Marco' past.
- ❖Gen Z Trump voters show a significant shift in perspective on Israel, expressing disgust and disappointment with its conduct in Gaza, moving away from unconditional Republican support.
- ❖Right-wing influencers like Nick Fuentes and Candace Owens are shaping young Republican views, even if voters claim 'ironic detachment' from their more extreme content.
- ❖The rise of 'groper politicians' like James Fishbach, who gain attention through provocative, often misogynistic, policy proposals (e.g., 'OnlyFans tax'), highlights a new model for political branding leveraging online anger.
- ❖The 'Streisand effect' is a significant challenge for combating extreme right-wing content, as attempts to expose or condemn controversial figures like Nick Fuentes inadvertently amplify their reach and relevance.
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1JD Vance's Struggle with Swing Voters vs. MAGA Base Appeal
Swing voters, particularly women, express discomfort and find JD Vance 'weird,' 'boring,' or 'creepy,' citing his demeanor and past comments (e.g., 'childless cat ladies'). This contrasts with his strong appeal among younger, online MAGA men and 'Trump first' voters who see him as the 'heir apparent' and face of the 'new right' that disregards traditional niceties like the Bill of Rights.
Focus group participants describe Vance with terms like 'gut feeling,' 'a little bit weird and maybe boring,' and 'gives me the heebie-jeebies.' One woman explicitly mentions his comments about 'women not having children' and 'childless cat lady' remarks sticking with female voters. The host notes Vance 'plays best with a lot of these new writists terminally online, but that includes a lot of young people, young men, and like sort of Trump first voters.'
2Marco Rubio's Unexpected 'MAGA Makeover' and Rising Respect
Marco Rubio, previously seen as an 'old guard' Republican, is experiencing a 'strange new respect' among both swing and base voters. His role in foreign policy within the Trump administration (e.g., Ukraine, China, Venezuela) has cultivated an image of seriousness and effectiveness, allowing him to shed his 'Little Marco' persona and gain Trump's blessing without being directly tied to unpopular domestic policies.
Swing voters state, 'I used to think Marco was a clown... I actually think he's doing a great job now.' Others noted, 'Rubio surprised me' and 'Vance and Rubio have really surprised me with the intelligence, energy.' The guest attributes this to his 'Secretary of State' role, being 'not really involved in things that voters are particularly going to be mad about' domestically, and 'getting his face out there looking serious.'
3Gen Z Republicans' Shifting Views on Israel
Young Republican men (18-24) exhibit a significant departure from traditional GOP pro-Israel stances, expressing criticism and disappointment with Israel's conduct in Gaza. They describe the situation as a 'humanitarian crisis,' questioning Israel's morality in aid distribution and its overall actions, indicating a growing distaste for unconditional US support for Israel.
One young voter states, 'I just think that a lot of times when you try to punish people for saying something against it... that gives me a couple red flags.' Another describes Israel's aid distribution as 'like the Hunger Games' and 'a little immoral.' The guest notes 'growing distaste among Gen Z Republicans for Israel' and 'a general disgust, disappointment with Israel's conduct in Gaza.'
4The Rise of 'Groper Politicians' and the 'OnlyFans Tax'
James Fishbach, a Florida gubernatorial candidate, exemplifies a new type of 'groper politician' who leverages online controversy and niche cultural grievances to gain attention. His proposal for a 'ho tax' on OnlyFans creators and consumers resonates with young men who express anger and resentment towards OnlyFans, viewing it as a 'menace' to traditional relationships and a source of societal decline.
Voters were drawn to Fishbach's 'ho tax' proposal, with one saying, 'I feel like that's creative. I feel like it's new and it brings people talking.' Another added, 'I already don't like the whole only fans thing in itself... The idea of having people really be taxed of those who are purchasers makes them at least second guess.' The guest explains this taps into 'anger among young men... It's like you can't find a nice girl anymore because all the girls are on Only Fans.'
Bottom Line
The 'influencer-to-politician' pipeline is reversing: individuals now run for office primarily to build a social media profile and become influencers, rather than influencers transitioning to politics.
This shift indicates that political office is increasingly viewed as a platform for personal branding and audience monetization, rather than solely a means of public service. It incentivizes provocative, attention-grabbing stunts over substantive policy, further blurring the lines between entertainment and governance.
Traditional political campaigns and media need to adapt to this new reality, understanding that 'winning' in this context means capturing attention and building an online following, not just securing votes. This requires developing strategies to counter or co-opt the virality of influencer-driven politics.
The 'Streisand effect' is a significant challenge in combating extreme right-wing content, where attempts to expose or condemn controversial figures like Nick Fuentes inadvertently amplify their reach and relevance.
This dynamic makes it difficult for mainstream media and political opponents to address harmful content without giving it more oxygen. The outrage cycle becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy for these influencers, boosting their audience and influence.
Strategies must evolve beyond simply 'calling out' or 'shaming' these figures. This could involve focusing on the concrete harm caused by their ideas, promoting alternative, positive content, or developing platforms that prioritize factual discourse over sensationalism, rather than directly engaging with the controversial content itself.
Lessons
- Democrats and pro-democracy advocates should 'always be communicating, always be creating' to compete in the attention economy, as bad actors are currently winning.
- Focus on concrete, tangible issues like 'building things' and 'making things cheaper' to appeal to a broader, 'relatively mainstream' audience tired of political craziness.
- Embrace and dominate media spaces with positive, concrete messaging, rather than being solely reactive to the provocative content of right-wing influencers.
Quotes
"I think for the average sort of politically engaged person, it seems like JD Vance is a lock. And then perhaps this suggests maybe not."
"I mean, the thing that comes up about Vance all the time, it's so funny because Trump is obviously horrible when it comes to women... and yet these women... are not absolving JD Vance of his childless cat ladies like that childless cat lady has stuck in the craw of female voters."
"I feel like the whole situation going on in Israel versus and Palestine, whatever, it's a big humanitarian crisis and I've I've watched a few videos. I've done a little bit of research looking into it and the way like I'd say Israel conducts itself when addressing Palestine, I feel like it's a little immoral."
"I don't find Only Fans to be a particularly savory development in our culture, but I think this points to there's this anger among young men, I think, particularly on the right about Only Fans."
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