Julian Dorey Podcast
Julian Dorey Podcast
February 23, 2026

“Epstein LIES!” - CIA John Kiriakou ERUPTS on Satanic Elite, Mossad & Most STUNNING Files | 388

Quick Read

Former CIA officer John Kiriakou and host Julian Dorey dissect the latest Jeffrey Epstein files, revealing deep intelligence connections, political corruption, and a 'shadow commission' on 9/11, while Kiriakou shares intel on an imminent US attack on Iran.
Epstein likely served as an 'intelligence peddler' for multiple global agencies, leveraging blackmail against powerful figures.
High-level US and UK officials, including Obama's White House Counsel, maintained extensive, suspicious contact with Epstein.
A 'shadow commission on 9/11' email to Ghislaine Maxwell suggests deeper, undisclosed layers to major historical events.

Summary

Former CIA officer John Kiriakou and host Julian Dorey engage in an intense discussion about the recently released Jeffrey Epstein documents, uncovering layers of high-level corruption and intelligence involvement. Kiriakou, drawing on his extensive experience, details how Epstein likely operated as an 'intelligence peddler' for multiple global agencies, not just Mossad, using blackmail as a primary tool. The conversation exposes shocking connections, including former Obama White House Counsel Kathryn Ruemmler's extensive emails with Epstein and her alleged role on a 'kill list committee,' and Les Wexner's suspicious relationship with Epstein. They also discuss Epstein's alleged involvement in the Iran-Contra affair and the Al-Yamamah arms deal, linking him to Saudi arms dealer Adnan Khashoggi. A startling email reveals Ghislaine Maxwell was invited to a 'shadow commission on 9/11.' The episode concludes with Kiriakou sharing intelligence about a potential imminent US attack on Iran, influenced by a politically loyal Joint Chiefs of Staff, and the broader implications of these revelations on public trust and global stability.
This episode matters because it provides a former intelligence officer's perspective on the Jeffrey Epstein scandal, framing it not just as a sex trafficking ring, but as a sophisticated intelligence operation involving blackmail and deep state actors. The discussion highlights systemic corruption within political and intelligence spheres, questioning the integrity of government officials and institutions. Revelations about a 'shadow 9/11 commission' and imminent geopolitical conflicts underscore a perceived lack of transparency and accountability at the highest levels, challenging public understanding of power dynamics and potentially eroding trust in official narratives.

Takeaways

  • Jeffrey Epstein likely operated as an 'intelligence peddler' for multiple agencies, including Mossad, MI5/MI6, and German intelligence, using blackmail as a core function.
  • Former Obama White House Counsel Kathryn Ruemmler exchanged 11,500 emails with Epstein and allegedly served on a 'kill list committee,' raising severe judgment questions.
  • Les Wexner's hiring of Epstein as a tax advisor (a 7th-grade math teacher) and his subsequent denial of a sexual relationship are highly suspicious.
  • Epstein's alleged involvement in the Iran-Contra affair and the Al-Yamamah arms deal connects him to major global arms trafficking and intelligence operations.
  • An email from 2003 reveals Ghislaine Maxwell was invited to a 'shadow commission on 9/11' with a secret membership list.
  • The US military is positioned for a potential attack on Iran, with a newly appointed Joint Chiefs of Staff loyal to the administration, raising concerns about distraction from domestic scandals.
  • The Trilateral Commission and Bilderberg Group are confirmed venues where global elites discuss arms deals and economic management, challenging 'conspiracy theory' dismissals.
  • The US intelligence community (CIA, FBI) is criticized for incompetence, arrogance, and a lack of transparency, often covering up crimes or failing to prosecute high-profile individuals due to statutes of limitations.
  • The relationship between US and Israeli intelligence is described as 'critical threat' for counterintelligence, with Mossad actively spying on the US despite operational cooperation.
  • Steve Bannon and Brock Pierce (Mighty Ducks actor, crypto entrepreneur) are linked to Epstein and early online influence operations, including money laundering through video game currency.

Insights

1Epstein as an Intelligence Peddler and Blackmail Operator

John Kiriakou's perspective on Epstein evolved from a 'Mossad access agent' to a sophisticated 'intelligence peddler' or broker for multiple intelligence services, including Israeli, British (MI5/MI6), and German agencies. Epstein's primary objective was to collect 'compromat' (compromising material) for blackmail, rather than just personal gratification. This strategy allowed him to gain leverage over powerful individuals, trading information and influence across various global actors.

Kiriakou states, 'I'm positive that he was an Israeli agent of some sort,' and later, 'I think he was more than that and that he was probably not exclusive to the Israelis. I think he was what's called an intelligence peddler or an intelligence broker, but a more sophisticated one.' He adds, 'It was about blackmail. It had to have been. I don't understand it otherwise.' (, , )

2High-Level Political and Intelligence Complicity in Epstein's Network

The Epstein files reveal extensive and suspicious contacts between Epstein and high-ranking government officials. Kathryn Ruemmler, Obama's White House Counsel, exchanged 11,500 emails with Epstein and attempted to arrange a meeting between him and then-CIA Director John Brennan. Kiriakou speculates Ruemmler was on the 'kill list committee,' highlighting a severe lapse in judgment. Similarly, Les Wexner's decision to hire Epstein, a 7th-grade math teacher, as his tax advisor, and Prince Andrew's alleged involvement in the Al-Yamamah arms deal with Epstein, point to deep-seated corruption and compromise among elites.

Kiriakou notes Ruemmler's '11,500 emails' and her attempts to set up a lunch between Epstein and John Brennan, theorizing she was on the 'kill list committee.' () He questions Wexner's judgment in hiring a 'seventh grade substitute math teacher' as a tax advisor. () Prince Andrew was 'charged with passing a document to Epstein that had to do with British business and trade negotiations' (Al-Yamamah deal). ()

3The 'Shadow Commission on 9/11' Revelation

A newly released email from 2003 shows Ghislaine Maxwell was invited to join a 'shadow commission on 9/11' with a secret membership list. This revelation suggests an undisclosed, parallel investigation or discussion about the 9/11 attacks among a clandestine group, further fueling skepticism about official narratives and the extent of hidden power structures.

An email from 'Ed Epstein' to 'GMAX Ghislaine Maxwell' in 2003 asks, 'Any interest in being on the shadow commission on 9/11? The membership list is secret.' Maxwell responds, 'Thanks for the invite. Unfortunately, I cannot be on the shadow commission.' ()

4Imminent US Attack on Iran and Political Distraction

Kiriakou reveals intelligence from a former CIA officer indicating a decision was made to attack Iran on Monday or Tuesday (following the podcast's recording date). This move follows a 10-day ultimatum from the US president to Iran and a significant military buildup in the region. Kiriakou suggests the timing could be a distraction from current scandals, drawing parallels to 'Wag the Dog' scenarios, and notes that the Joint Chiefs of Staff, now politically loyal due to recent replacements, are supporting the pro-war stance.

Kiriakou states, 'a decision has been made to attack Iran on Monday or Tuesday.' He mentions the president gave Iran 10 days and notes the USS Abraham Lincoln and USS Gerald Ford's deployments. He adds, 'Trump has replaced all of the joint chiefs this year... and he promoted people that he knew would be politically loyal.' (, )

5Systemic Corruption and Cover-Ups Across Administrations

The discussion highlights a pattern of cover-ups and political opportunism surrounding the Epstein case, spanning multiple US administrations (Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump, Biden). The host and guest argue that every administration had a chance to release information but chose not to, indicating a 'systemic problem.' They emphasize that the cover-up is always worse than the crime, leading to a deep erosion of public trust and accountability.

The host states, 'every administration I would argue since Clinton has covered this up.' Kiriakou agrees, 'Absolutely, yes.' The host later adds, 'All these Democrats who are suddenly just jumping on the train here... because they covered this up.' (, )

Bottom Line

The Pentagon's strategy of distributing defense contracts across all 435 congressional districts creates a deeply embedded 'defense economy' that makes budget cuts politically impossible, effectively ensuring continuous military spending regardless of need.

So What?

This structural incentive perpetuates a massive military-industrial complex, influencing political decisions and potentially prioritizing arms deals over diplomatic solutions, as seen in discussions at elite gatherings like the Trilateral Commission.

Impact

Investigative journalism focusing on the micro-level impact of defense contracts in specific districts could expose the political mechanisms driving military spending and potentially mobilize local opposition to unnecessary conflicts.

The CIA's alleged 'arrogance' and 'stupidity' in operational security, such as editors' ISP information tracing back to Langley or failing to respond to FOIA requests, suggests a significant vulnerability in their ability to maintain secrecy.

So What?

This hubris makes the agency susceptible to exposure by persistent journalists and whistleblowers, as seen in cases where charges were dropped due to CIA errors or when journalists like Jason Leopold successfully forced disclosures.

Impact

Leveraging FOIA requests and public data analysis to expose intelligence agency activities could be a powerful tool for transparency and accountability, especially given the agencies' underestimation of public scrutiny.

The connection between Steve Bannon, Brock Pierce (Mighty Ducks actor turned crypto entrepreneur), and Epstein's network, particularly concerning online money laundering through video game currency and sourcing underage women, points to a sophisticated, multi-faceted operation beyond simple sex trafficking.

So What?

This suggests a convergence of financial manipulation, political influence, and illicit activities, indicating that the 'fixer class' operates across seemingly disparate domains, leveraging emerging technologies and public figures for their agenda.

Impact

Further investigation into the financial flows and digital footprints of these interconnected networks, especially within the crypto and online gaming sectors, could uncover new methods of illicit finance and influence.

Lessons

  • Demand the release of all remaining Epstein documents, as mandated by law, to ensure full transparency and accountability from government institutions.
  • Cultivate extreme skepticism towards official narratives and media reports, especially those from government officials or 'access journalists,' recognizing the potential for disinformation and self-censorship.
  • Support independent investigative journalism and platforms that prioritize uncovering hidden truths, as traditional media outlets often lack the resources or willingness to challenge powerful interests.

Notable Moments

John Kiriakou's personal anecdote about David Rockefeller being a 'secret back channel to Saddam Hussein' under the guise of an award ceremony.

This story profoundly illustrates how high-level diplomacy and intelligence operations are conducted covertly, often using seemingly innocuous events as cover, reinforcing the idea that 'things are not what they seem' at the highest echelons of power.

Kiriakou's prison experience detailing the incompetence and corruption of federal prison guards, including their inability to read and constant dereliction of duty.

This firsthand account provides a stark explanation for how critical security failures, like those surrounding Epstein's death, are not necessarily part of a grand conspiracy but rather a result of systemic incompetence and negligence within institutions.

The host's theory that Epstein's public exposure (e.g., the 2002 flight with Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey, Chris Tucker) was a turning point, forcing intelligence agencies to acknowledge and then 'tax' his operations for information.

This theory offers a plausible explanation for how Epstein, despite his known criminal activities, continued to operate and even expand his network, suggesting a 'Mexican standoff' where his leverage prevented direct intervention but compelled him to serve intelligence interests.

Quotes

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"If you're like the most important constitutional attorney in the world, then maybe you should keep your pants on probably in the presence of a 16-year-old girl."

John Kiriakou
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"It's a little club and you're not in it. We didn't even realize this little club existed within the big club."

Julian Dorey
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"David Rockefeller is the secret back channel to Saddam Hussein. He came here to make it look like he had business in the Middle East. We put him on a military transport this morning and sent him to Baghdad to tell Saddam Hussein to cut it out or you're going to get a bomb up your ass."

John Kiriakou (quoting his ambassador)
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"So help us God. If you publish this, you will never be invited to the Christmas party ever again, and we will never give you an off the record briefing. You're going to be banned."

John Kiriakou (quoting CIA to a journalist)
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"You have a jihad against you. The likes of which I've never seen and I've seen a lot of shit."

Steve Bannon (in an email to Jeffrey Epstein)
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"The Israelis are not our friends. They actively recruit Americans to spy on Israel's behalf, to betray the United States."

John Kiriakou

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