The Megyn Kelly Show
The Megyn Kelly Show
January 8, 2026

The Truth About the ICE Shooting in MN, and Dangers of Marijuana, w/ MK True Crime & Alex Berenson

Quick Read

This episode dissects the Minneapolis ICE shooting, arguing the agent was justified based on legal standards and prior experience, while also exposing the severe mental health and violence risks associated with high-potency cannabis use.
The ICE agent's use of force in Minneapolis was objectively reasonable, especially given his prior experience of being dragged by a vehicle.
High-potency cannabis, particularly when used by young people or those with mental health vulnerabilities, significantly increases the risk of psychosis and schizophrenia.
The rise in mass shootings and other senseless violence is strongly correlated with increased high-potency cannabis use, often compounded by stimulant medications like Adderall.

Summary

Megyn Kelly and her legal panel analyze the Minneapolis ICE shooting, asserting the agent's actions were objectively reasonable given the driver's aggressive behavior and the agent's prior experience of being dragged by a vehicle. They criticize local officials and media for inflammatory rhetoric and misrepresenting the legal standards. The second half features Alex Berenson, who details the alarming link between high-potency cannabis (THC) and psychosis, schizophrenia, and violence, arguing against its legalization and the misleading 'medical' marketing by the industry. He highlights how increased cannabis use, often combined with Adderall, correlates with a rise in mass shootings and other senseless acts of violence, citing the Nick Reiner murder case as a potential example.
This episode challenges prevailing narratives on two contentious issues: police use of force and drug legalization. It provides a legal defense for the ICE agent's actions, emphasizing the 'objective reasonableness' standard, and exposes the potential dangers of high-potency cannabis, linking it to mental illness and violence, which is often overlooked in public discourse. Understanding these perspectives is critical for informed discussions on law enforcement accountability and public health policy regarding drug use.

Takeaways

  • The ICE agent involved in the Minneapolis shooting had been severely injured in a similar incident six months prior, where he was dragged over 100 yards by a suspect's vehicle.
  • The driver shot by ICE was actively blocking traffic to impede federal agents, ignoring repeated commands to exit her vehicle before accelerating towards an officer.
  • Legal standards for police use of force require judging an officer's actions from their perspective in a split-second, rapidly evolving, and tense situation, not with 20/20 hindsight.
  • Local Minneapolis officials and media are accused of fanning civil unrest by making inflammatory statements and misrepresenting the facts of the ICE shooting.
  • High-potency THC in modern cannabis (20-30% vs. 1-3% historically) is a primary driver of increased psychosis, schizophrenia, and violence.
  • The cannabis industry's marketing of THC as 'medicine' encourages vulnerable individuals (those with anxiety, depression, sleep disorders) to use a substance that exacerbates their conditions.
  • Cannabis is psychologically addictive and carries similar overall physical and psychiatric risks to alcohol, contrary to popular belief.
  • The combination of high-potency cannabis and stimulant medications like Adderall is particularly dangerous, increasing the risk of psychosis and violent behavior.
  • The Nick Reiner murder case may become a high-profile legal battle exposing the link between cannabis use and mental illness, potentially destroying an insanity defense.

Insights

1ICE Agent's Use of Force Justified by Prior Experience and Legal Standard

The ICE agent who shot Renee Good in Minneapolis was justified in his actions due to the driver's aggressive behavior and his own recent traumatic experience. Six months prior, the same agent was dragged over 100 yards by a suspect's vehicle, sustaining severe injuries. This history, combined with Good's deliberate act of blocking an arrest and then accelerating her SUV towards him, made his fear for his life objectively reasonable under the 'Graham v. Connor' Supreme Court standard for police use of force. Local officials and media are criticized for ignoring these critical details and fanning anti-police sentiment.

The agent was dragged for over 100 yards and seriously injured in a June 2025 incident while attempting to arrest a convicted sex offender (Roberto Carlos Munos Guatemala). Video evidence of the Minneapolis incident shows Renee Good reversing, then accelerating her SUV towards the agent. The legal standard of 'objective reasonableness' from the officer's perspective in split-second, rapidly evolving circumstances (Graham v. Connor, 1989) is cited.

2High-Potency Cannabis Linked to Psychosis, Violence, and Societal Decline

Modern high-potency cannabis (THC) is a significant and under-recognized driver of severe mental illness, including psychosis and schizophrenia, which in turn fuels violence. The cannabis industry's misleading marketing of THC as 'medicine' encourages vulnerable individuals, particularly young people, to use a substance that exacerbates mental health issues. This increased use, often combined with stimulant drugs like Adderall, correlates with a rise in mass shootings and other senseless acts of violence, yet public discourse largely ignores this connection.

Alex Berenson's book 'Tell Your Children' (2019) details the link between cannabis, mental illness, and violence. THC content in cannabis has increased from 1-3% 50 years ago to 20-30% today. Psychosis is a known risk factor for violence against family members and strangers. The industry targets individuals with anxiety, depression, and sleep disorders, who are most susceptible to adverse effects. The combination of cannabis and Adderall (amphetamine) is noted as particularly dangerous for inducing psychosis.

3Legal Challenges and Denials in the Nick Reiner Murder Case

Nick Reiner's high-profile defense attorney withdrew, likely due to the enormous cost of a mental health defense, leaving him with a public defender. The defense is expected to pursue a 'not guilty by reason of insanity' plea, but this faces an extremely high legal bar in California. Evidence of Reiner's actions before and after the murders (e.g., heated arguments, attempts to evade capture) suggests he understood right from wrong, undermining an insanity defense. The case may highlight the cannabis-psychosis link if the prosecution argues his mental state was drug-induced.

Attorney Alan Jackson's withdrawal and subsequent appointment of a public defender suggest financial constraints. Jackson's public statement, 'not guilty of murder,' is interpreted as a legal, not factual, innocence claim. The California legal standard for insanity defense places a high burden of proof on the defendant. Reiner's past statements on the 'Dopey' podcast about smoking weed to avoid 'harder things' and taking Adderall, combined with alleged post-murder hiding behavior, will be critical evidence.

Lessons

  • When evaluating incidents of police use of force, prioritize understanding the 'objective reasonableness' standard from the officer's perspective, considering all immediate circumstances and prior relevant experiences, rather than relying on hindsight or biased narratives.
  • Educate yourself and others, especially young people, about the significant and documented risks of high-potency cannabis use, including its links to psychosis, schizophrenia, and violence, and challenge misleading 'medical' marketing.
  • If you or someone you know is prescribed stimulant medications like Adderall, be acutely aware of the heightened risks if combined with cannabis, as both can individually and synergistically induce psychosis.

Quotes

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"Who among us would not understand that if we did not respond to law enforcement surrounding our car telling us to get out, we were endangering ourselves? Who among us would expect to live if we pressed the accelerator with a cop in front of our SUV? Like that's what she did. Everyone would know you are putting your own life in danger."

Megyn Kelly
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"The Supreme Court told us in a number of cases, but really the seminal case involving use of force is Graham versus Connor from 1989. And they clearly said specifically in their ruling that the all police use of force must be reasonable. And that reasonleness must be judged... From the perspective of the officer on the scene, from the officer you just showed in those videos in front of that car, hearing that revving of that engine, seeing those tires spinning, and having been through this before and hospitalized and damn near killed. We're supposed to look at it from his perspective, not the 2020 lens of hindsight."

Phil Holloway
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"Both can be true. Both of these facts could be true. She could have not intended to run over that officer... And the officer could have believed she'd intended to. Both of those can be true. And if both of those are true, it's still not wrong what he did."

Ashley Merchant
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"You know, that cannabis, that marijuana, which, you know, a lot of people just use pure THC now. They use vapes... certainly if you use that over time and if you use a lot of it and unfortunately if you start when you're in your teens, your early teens especially, you're at higher risk for developing severe mental illness."

Alex Berenson
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"The problem is that drugs have their own logic. Okay? And that's true of cannabis. It's true of alcohol. It's true of other drugs. And that logic is one word, Megan. It's more."

Alex Berenson
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"I'm just smoking weed to prevent myself from doing any other sort of hard thing right now."

Nick Reiner (from Dopey podcast)

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